<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369</id><updated>2011-11-27T16:57:09.028-08:00</updated><category term='pagan'/><category term='gnostic'/><title type='text'>Non Agnostic</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>94</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-6603929928054363860</id><published>2010-06-03T07:17:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-03T07:17:55.268-07:00</updated><title type='text'>bishop attacked in Turkey</title><content type='html'>Roman Catholic Bishop Luigi Padovese killed in Turkey -- stabbed.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;AP has &amp;quot;...&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "&gt;the pope&amp;#39;s apostolic vicar in Anatolia, was attacked in his home in the Mediterranean port of Iskenderun&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot; and his driver is a suspect.  When a bishop is murdered, well... that&amp;#39;s a straight up &lt;i&gt;assassination&lt;/i&gt; isn&amp;#39;t it?&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Possible connection to Muhammed cartoons.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37487272/"&gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37487272/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;And commented on variously at&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://turkeynewz.blogspot.com/2010/06/catholic-bishop-in-turkey-murdered-by.html"&gt;http://turkeynewz.blogspot.com/2010/06/catholic-bishop-in-turkey-murdered-by.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nationalturk.com/en/catholic-bishop-in-anatolian-turkey-killed-after-stabbing-34636691"&gt;http://www.nationalturk.com/en/catholic-bishop-in-anatolian-turkey-killed-after-stabbing-34636691&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://getsomenews.com/2010/06/catholic-bishop-reportedly-stabbed-to-death-in-southern-turkey-46437"&gt;http://getsomenews.com/2010/06/catholic-bishop-reportedly-stabbed-to-death-in-southern-turkey-46437&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://sbynews.blogspot.com/2010/06/bishop-stabbed-to-death-in-turkey.html"&gt;http://sbynews.blogspot.com/2010/06/bishop-stabbed-to-death-in-turkey.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://faithofthefathersbenedictxvi.blogspot.com/2010/05/news-vatican-information-service.html"&gt;http://faithofthefathersbenedictxvi.blogspot.com/2010/05/news-vatican-information-service.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.hristiyanblog.com/luigi-padovese-olduruldu/"&gt;http://www.hristiyanblog.com/luigi-padovese-olduruldu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Luigi_Padovese_-_Domforum_K%C3%B6ln_%288294%29.jpg/120px-Luigi_Padovese_-_Domforum_K%C3%B6ln_%288294%29.jpg"&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;[img: wikimedia commons; Raimond Spekking]&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-6603929928054363860?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/6603929928054363860/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=6603929928054363860' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6603929928054363860'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6603929928054363860'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2010/06/bishop-attacked-in-turkey.html' title='bishop attacked in Turkey'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-3105846492926434473</id><published>2010-06-03T06:13:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-03T06:13:22.401-07:00</updated><title type='text'>david gibson on ted haggard</title><content type='html'>     &amp;quot;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia; color: rgb(17, 17, 17); line-height: 21px; "&gt;Christianity is all about second acts, and disgraced evangelical leader Ted Haggard is the latest conservative Christian to exploit that role to the hilt. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;     Haggard announced Wednesday that he is starting a new church in the same town -- Colorado Springs -- that he left in humiliation in 2006 following a gay sex and drugs scandal. And he says this church will be for people like himself, &amp;quot;a church for sinners -- for people who have hit rock bottom and people who want to help people who have hit rock bottom. ... It is not a gathering for the righteous, except those who are righteous by faith.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;div&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/06/02/ted-haggard-is-back-gay-sex-and-drug-scandal-cant-keep-evangel/"&gt;http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/06/02/ted-haggard-is-back-gay-sex-and-drug-scandal-cant-keep-evangel/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well, maybe Haggard&amp;#39;s fall knocked a touch of sense into his noggin?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.mikhaela.net/weblog/uploaded_images/bp070215_haggard-704649.gif"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;[img: &lt;a href="http://www.mikhaela.net/weblog/uploaded_images/bp070215_haggard-704649.gif"&gt;http://www.mikhaela.net/weblog/uploaded_images/bp070215_haggard-704649.gif&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-3105846492926434473?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/3105846492926434473/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=3105846492926434473' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3105846492926434473'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3105846492926434473'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2010/06/david-gibson-on-ted-haggard.html' title='david gibson on ted haggard'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-952311465795643001</id><published>2010-06-02T18:46:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-02T18:46:58.015-07:00</updated><title type='text'>the debate nobody has with hitchens</title><content type='html'>Hitchens is fun to watch.  Good debater.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#39;m a bit tired of seeing the same debate again and again, though.  It&amp;#39;s essentially a metaphysical debate about the existence of a very poorly defined and sloppily posited &amp;#39;ultimate person&amp;#39;.  Does that person exist or not? is the usual question being debated.&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I want to see a debate about the pros and cons of living one&amp;#39;s life liturgically, keeping mythological patterns and rhythms conscientiously, and about the use and/or value of choosing to live one&amp;#39;s life framed by Story.&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think Hitchens would be very interested in that debate... but why aren&amp;#39;t more Christians?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-952311465795643001?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/952311465795643001/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=952311465795643001' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/952311465795643001'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/952311465795643001'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2010/06/debate-nobody-has-with-hitchens.html' title='the debate nobody has with hitchens'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-8280160134232372708</id><published>2010-06-02T11:44:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-02T11:44:41.012-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Pentacostal drum 'n bass: disinfo</title><content type='html'>Via Disinformation.com:&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.disinfo.com/2010/05/pentacostal-drum-n-bass/"&gt;http://www.disinfo.com/2010/05/pentacostal-drum-n-bass/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetic, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "&gt;Join fundamentalist fervor with a high-tech acoustic savagery, and you are prepared for the cleansing fury of&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/airloaf" style="color: rgb(238, 37, 41); text-decoration: none; "&gt;Baptazia&lt;/a&gt;.  Be sure to turn up the bass.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmhZVjaqQo&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmhZVjaqQo&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-8280160134232372708?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/8280160134232372708/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=8280160134232372708' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8280160134232372708'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8280160134232372708'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2010/06/pentacostal-drum-n-bass-disinfo.html' title='Pentacostal drum &apos;n bass: disinfo'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2379003336889690568</id><published>2010-05-31T21:22:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-31T21:22:53.233-07:00</updated><title type='text'>wahabi</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/gulf/wahhabi.htm"&gt;http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/gulf/wahhabi.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; "&gt;&amp;#39;This branch of Islam is often referred to as &amp;quot;Wahhabi,&amp;quot; a term that many adherents to this tradition do not use. Members of this form of Islam call themselves &lt;i style="font-style: italic; "&gt;Muwahhidun&lt;/i&gt; (&amp;quot;Unitarians&amp;quot;, or &amp;quot;unifiers of Islamic practice&amp;quot;). They use the &lt;i style="font-style: italic; "&gt;Salafi Da&amp;#39;wa&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i style="font-style: italic; "&gt;Ahlul Sunna wal Jama&amp;#39;a&lt;/i&gt;. The teachings of the reformer Abd Al-Wahhab are more often referred to by adherents as &lt;i style="font-style: italic; "&gt;Salafi&lt;/i&gt;, that is, &amp;quot;following the forefathers of Islam.&amp;quot;&amp;#39;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; "&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; "&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;amp;^*!ing Unitarians...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2379003336889690568?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2379003336889690568/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2379003336889690568' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2379003336889690568'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2379003336889690568'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2010/05/wahabi.html' title='wahabi'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2503572796071741829</id><published>2010-05-31T21:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-31T21:19:21.051-07:00</updated><title type='text'>mars hill theology</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://marshill.org/believe/"&gt;http://marshill.org/believe/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://marshill.org/believe/"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;---&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 16px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;Narrative Theology&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 16px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 16px; "&gt;We believe God inspired the authors of Scripture by his Spirit to speak to all generations of believers, including us today. God calls us to immerse ourselves in this authoritative narrative communally and individually to faithfully interpret and live out that story today as we are led by the Spirit of God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style=" color: rgb(51, 51, 51);  line-height: 16px; font-family:Arial, Verdana, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 15px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-weight: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; "&gt;In the beginning God created all things good. He was and always will be in a communal relationship with himself-Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. God created us to be relational as well and marked us with an identity as his image bearers and a missional calling to serve, care for, and cultivate the earth. God created humans in his image to live in fellowship with him, one another, our inner self, and creation. The enemy tempted the first humans, and darkness and evil entered the story through human sin and are now a part of the world. This devastating event resulted in our relationships with God, others, ourselves, and creation being fractured and in desperate need of redeeming.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 15px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-weight: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; "&gt;We believe God did not abandon his creation to destruction and decay; rather he promised to restore this broken world. As part of this purpose, God chose a people, Abraham and his descendants, to represent him in the world. God promised to bless them as a nation so that through them all nations would be blessed. In time they became enslaved in Egypt and cried out to God because of their oppression. God heard their cry, liberated them from their oppressor, and brought them to Sinai where he gave them an identity and a mission as his treasured possession, a kingdom of priests, a holy people. Throughout the story of Israel, God refused to give up on his people despite their frequent acts of unfaithfulness to him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 15px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-weight: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; "&gt;God brought his people into the Promised Land. Their state of blessing from God was intimately bound to their calling to embody the living God to other nations. They made movement toward this missional calling, yet they disobeyed and allowed foreign gods into the land, overlooked the poor, and mistreated the foreigner. The prophetic voices that emerge from the Scriptures held the calling of Israel to the mirror of how they treated the oppressed and marginalized. Through the prophets, God’s heart for the poor was made known, and we believe that God cares deeply for the marginalized and oppressed among us today.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 15px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-weight: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; "&gt;In Israel’s disobedience, they became indifferent and in turn irrelevant to the purposes to which God had called them. For a time, they were sent into exile; yet a hopeful remnant was always looking ahead with longing and hope to a renewed reign of God, where peace and justice would prevail.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 15px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-weight: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; "&gt;We believe these longings found their fulfillment in Jesus the Messiah, conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of a virgin, mysteriously God having become flesh. Jesus came to preach good news to the poor, to bind up the brokenhearted and set captives free, proclaiming a new arrival of the kingdom of God, bringing about a new exodus, and restoring our fractured world. He and his message were rejected by many as he confronted the oppressive nature of the religious elite and the empire of Rome. Yet his path of suffering, crucifixion, death, burial, and resurrection has brought hope to all creation. Jesus is our only hope for bringing peace and reconciliation between God and humans. Through Jesus we have been forgiven and brought into right relationship with God. God is now reconciling us to each other, ourselves, and creation. The Spirit of God affirms as children of God all those who trust Jesus. The Spirit empowers us with gifts, convicts, guides, comforts, counsels, and leads us into truth through a communal life of worship and a missional expression of our faith. The church is rooted and grounded in Christ, practicing spiritual disciplines and celebrating baptism and the Lord’s Supper. The church is a global and local expression of living out the way of Jesus through love, peace, sacrifice, and healing as we embody the resurrected Christ, who lives in and through us, to a broken and hurting world.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 15px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-weight: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; "&gt;We believe the day is coming when Jesus will return to judge the world, bringing an end to injustice and restoring all things to God’s original intent. God will reclaim this world and rule forever. The earth’s groaning will cease and God will dwell with us here in a restored creation. On that day we will beat swords into tools for cultivating the earth, the wolf will lie down with the lamb, there will be no more death, and God will wipe away all our tears. Our relationships with God, others, ourselves, and creation will be whole. All will flourish as God intends. This is what we long for. This is what we hope for. And we are giving our lives to living out that future reality now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 15px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-weight: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-size: 12px; font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; "&gt;---&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2503572796071741829?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2503572796071741829/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2503572796071741829' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2503572796071741829'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2503572796071741829'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2010/05/mars-hill-theology.html' title='mars hill theology'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-3439600589263324732</id><published>2010-05-31T20:56:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-31T20:56:31.508-07:00</updated><title type='text'>osteen</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.daveburchett.com/archive/2005/12/21/270.aspx"&gt;http://www.daveburchett.com/archive/2005/12/21/270.aspx&lt;/a&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Some Osteen dish.&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-3439600589263324732?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/3439600589263324732/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=3439600589263324732' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3439600589263324732'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3439600589263324732'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2010/05/osteen.html' title='osteen'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-8667997052177653880</id><published>2010-05-26T07:24:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-26T07:50:41.843-07:00</updated><title type='text'>news roundup</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;Some fresh links:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&amp;amp;sa=T&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fwires%2F2010%2F05%2F26%2Freligious-unity-and-the-s_ws_589951.html&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNHtoGmORzvqpPHl0BeWVtbIcMrSAA" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 68, 187); "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;b&gt;Religious&lt;/b&gt; Unity and the Synchronicity of Chaos Theory&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:#6f6f6f;"&gt;Huffington Post (blog)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Huston Smith; Dalai Lama; "...&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; line-height: 18px; "&gt;we can hope that it will bring about a unity between adherents of the world's faiths leading to a sort of birth of a new world free from war and discord with all harmoniously joined in peace and prosperity.&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; "&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#330000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#330000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Oh sure, we can hope.  &amp;amp;^%$# hippies... it's engineering that saves people, not wishing &amp;amp; dreaming.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&amp;amp;sa=T&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww1.voanews.com%2Fenglish%2Fnews%2Fusa%2FNew-York-Community-Board-Supports-Ground-Zero-Mosque-94918419.html&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNELGTvo-eu-PmWsBaBvPlJv7hOoOA" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 68, 187); "&gt;&lt;b&gt;New York Community Board Supports Ground Zero Mosque&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:#6f6f6f;"&gt;Voice of America&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;"Critics of the plan say it is disrespectful to the victims of the attack to build a Muslim&lt;b&gt;religious&lt;/b&gt; space so close to a site destroyed by Islamist[s]..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#330000;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#330000;"&gt;But then again Islam is the religion of 'submission' and 'peace', no?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&amp;amp;sa=T&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fscienceblogs.com%2Fdispatches%2F2010%2F05%2Ffemale_religious_righter_caugh.php&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNHMPpdnw8lygfLyxAQESgCgun2pXg" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 68, 187); "&gt;&lt;b&gt;Female &lt;b&gt;Religious&lt;/b&gt; Righter Caught in Affair?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:#6f6f6f;"&gt;ScienceBlogs (blog)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;"Haley, currently a state rep in South Carolina, is a &lt;b&gt;religious&lt;/b&gt; right, family values conservative all the way. Sarah Palin has endorsed her candidacy..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#330000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#330000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Do as I say, not as I do, again again again.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&amp;amp;sa=T&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.catholic.org%2Fpolitics%2Fstory.php%3Fid%3D36701&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNGVyn-jBB0z-JvUfkRRXVwytaVPQQ" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 68, 187); "&gt;&lt;b&gt;US Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Arizona School Choice Suit&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:#6f6f6f;"&gt;Catholic Online&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;"They stress that Arizonans are free to choose other school tuition organizations that fund non-&lt;b&gt;religious&lt;/b&gt; private schools..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#330000;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#330000;"&gt;Tax credits for 'donations' to educational non-profits (private tuition).. a step closer to school vouchers, methinks.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#330000;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&amp;amp;sa=T&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.goupstate.com%2Farticle%2F20100526%2FARTICLES%2F5261002%2F1051&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNF-K99g2hA3FOdnYX5opkPPucGBIA" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 68, 187); "&gt;&lt;b&gt;White's proclamation shows uneven nature of morality debate&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#330000;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);  font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:#6f6f6f;"&gt;Spartanburg Herald Journal&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;"...For instance, Spartanburg Mayor Junie White has issued a proclamation on behalf of the city of Spartanburg, declaring June 19 to be Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Pride Day.The debate over sexual issues is fundamentally a moral and therefore religious one. Some people follow the Jewish and Christian Scriptures and see that authority as prohibiting homosexuality. Others adhere to a different moral authority that allows homosexuality.."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#330000;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:#6f6f6f;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#330000;"&gt;More sex news from South Carolina... sorta.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 7px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 7px; font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:#6f6f6f;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-8667997052177653880?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/8667997052177653880/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=8667997052177653880' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8667997052177653880'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8667997052177653880'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2010/05/news-from-wacky-world-of-religion.html' title='news roundup'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2805167008747005340</id><published>2010-02-06T10:45:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2010-02-06T10:45:59.521-08:00</updated><title type='text'>td jakes dfw</title><content type='html'>&lt;font class="Apple-style-span" face="&amp;#39;courier new&amp;#39;, monospace"&gt;The good bishop &lt;a href="http://www.tdjenterprises.com/blog/?p=97"&gt;posts on home matters&lt;/a&gt;:  &lt;/font&gt; &lt;blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; "&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 15px; "&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;As long as I live, I will never forget the events of this summer! I've had some extraordinary experiences, beginning with the explosion at my home. Although it took a while to start the recovery process of the damages that resulted from the blast, and it may take months to completely restore our home, the important thing is that I still have my family - both spiritual and natural - and that means more to me than anything.&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;After such an eventful June, I welcomed in July with my Potter's House family. We celebrated 13 years of being in Dallas, Texas. I couldn't imagine us in any other city.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "&gt; &lt;font class="Apple-style-span" face="&amp;#39;courier new&amp;#39;, monospace"&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; font-size: small; "&gt;&lt;font class="Apple-style-span" face="&amp;#39;courier new&amp;#39;, monospace"&gt;He used to live in Fort Worth, a great town.  Anyhow -- good luck to him.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; font-size: small; "&gt;&lt;font class="Apple-style-span" face="&amp;#39;courier new&amp;#39;, monospace"&gt;You know, I&amp;#39;ve always wondered.. by what apostolic lineage did he come by the mantle of &amp;quot;bishop&amp;quot;, exactly?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; font-size: small; "&gt;&lt;font class="Apple-style-span" face="&amp;#39;courier new&amp;#39;, monospace"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.tdjakes.com/images/content/pagebuilder/11622.jpg" alt="Bishop T.D. Jakes"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2805167008747005340?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2805167008747005340/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2805167008747005340' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2805167008747005340'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2805167008747005340'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2010/02/td-jakes-dfw.html' title='td jakes dfw'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-6157262669694756606</id><published>2010-02-06T10:36:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2010-02-06T10:36:18.506-08:00</updated><title type='text'>uganda sex death</title><content type='html'>via &lt;a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/05/ugandas-kill-the-gay.html"&gt;http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/05/ugandas-kill-the-gay.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; "&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22px; "&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;You don&amp;#39;t have to be queer to deserve death under Uganda&amp;#39;s proposed homophobic hate law. If you are a straight Ugandan citizen convicted more than once of failing to rat out your gay friends, you too can be executed by the state for &amp;quot;aggravated homosexuality,&amp;quot; because those two strikes make you a &amp;quot;serial offender.&amp;quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-6157262669694756606?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/6157262669694756606/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=6157262669694756606' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6157262669694756606'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6157262669694756606'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2010/02/uganda-sex-death.html' title='uganda sex death'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-5599125455335254996</id><published>2008-12-21T19:07:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-21T19:09:41.586-08:00</updated><title type='text'>jesus in baghdad</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/21/iraq.christmas/index.html"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 292px; height: 219px;" src="http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/WORLD/meast/12/21/iraq.christmas/art.iraq.christmas.cnn.jpg" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 15px; "&gt;&lt;div id="cnnSCFontButtons" style="position: relative; min-height: 15px; "&gt;&lt;div id="cnnSCByLine" style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-size: 10px; "&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div id="cnnSCFontButtons" style="position: relative; min-height: 15px; "&gt;&lt;div id="cnnSCByLine" style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-size: 10px; "&gt;By Jill Dougherty &lt;br /&gt;CNN&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="cnnSCFontLabel" style="position: absolute; top: 0px; right: 38px; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/.element/img/2.0/global/story_tools/text_size.gif" alt="" width="38" height="13" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="cnnSCFontMinusBtn" onclick="setActiveStyleSheet('default'); return false;" style="position: absolute; top: 0px; cursor: pointer; right: 19px; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/.element/img/2.0/global/story_tools/txt_minus_dn_.gif" border="0" width="13" height="13" alt="Decrease font" title="Decrease font" class="cnnIncreaseFont" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="cnnSCFontPlusBtn" onclick="setActiveStyleSheet('LargeFont'); return false;" style="position: absolute; top: 0px; cursor: pointer; right: 0px; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/.element/img/2.0/global/story_tools/txt_plus.gif" border="0" width="13" height="13" alt="Enlarge font" title="Enlarge font" class="cnnIncreaseFont" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 12px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN)&lt;/b&gt; -- From a distance, it looks like an apparition: a huge multi-colored hot-air balloon floating in the Baghdad sky, bearing a large poster of Jesus Christ. Below it, an Iraqi flag.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div id="imageChanger1"&gt;&lt;div class="cnnStoryPhotoBox" style="float: left; width: 292px; margin-top: 2px; margin-right: 18px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; clear: left; "&gt;&lt;div id="cnnImgChngr" class="cnnImgChngr" style="background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-position: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;div id="cnnImgChngrNested" style="opacity: 1; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/WORLD/meast/12/21/iraq.christmas/art.iraq.chrstmas.02.cnn.gi.jpg" alt="Iraqi children dress like Santa's elves for the Christmas party." width="292" height="219" hspace="0" vspace="0" onload="CNN_loadImg(this.parentNode);" style="display: block; " /&gt;&lt;div class="cnnStoryPhotoCaptionBox" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(232, 232, 232); border-right-color: rgb(232, 232, 232); border-bottom-color: rgb(232, 232, 232); border-left-color: rgb(232, 232, 232); padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-position: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;div class="cnn3pxTB9pxLRPad" style="padding-top: 3px; padding-right: 9px; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 9px; "&gt;&lt;p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 10px; line-height: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); margin-top: 0px; "&gt;Iraqi children dress like Santa's elves for the Christmas party.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="cnnStoryPhotoBoxNavigation" style="position: relative; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(232, 232, 232); border-right-color: rgb(232, 232, 232); border-bottom-color: rgb(232, 232, 232); border-left-color: rgb(232, 232, 232); margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); height: 26px; background-position: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;div id="cnnImgChngrPrvsLbl" style="position: absolute; top: 5px; left: 100px; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/21/iraq.christmas/index.html#" onclick="CNN_ArticleChanger.CNN_navChngBack(); return false;" onmouseout="CNN_changeImg('cnnImgChngrPrvsBtn')" onmouseover="CNN_changeImg('cnnImgChngrPrvsBtn',1)" style="cursor: pointer; font-size: 10px; color: rgb(61, 117, 172); text-decoration: none; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/.element/img/2.0/global/pic_changer/prev.gif" width="26" height="19" border="0" alt="Click to view previous image" title="Click to view previous image" id="cnnImgChngrPrvsBtn" style="display: block; " /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="cnnImgChngrLbl" style="position: absolute; top: 8px; left: 133px; font-size: 10px; color: rgb(148, 148, 148); "&gt;3 of 3&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="cnnImgChngrNxtLbl" style="position: absolute; top: 5px; right: 100px; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/21/iraq.christmas/index.html#" onclick="CNN_ArticleChanger.CNN_navChngFrwd(); return false;" onmouseout="CNN_changeImg('cnnImgChngrNxtBtn')" onmouseover="CNN_changeImg('cnnImgChngrNxtBtn',1)" style="cursor: default; font-size: 10px; color: rgb(61, 117, 172); text-decoration: none; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/.element/img/2.0/content/in_the_news/right_gray_btn.gif" width="26" height="19" border="0" alt="Click to view next image" title="Click to view next image" id="cnnImgChngrNxtBtn" style="display: block; " /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="cnnStoryPhotoMoreLnk" style="position: absolute; left: auto; right: 9px; top: 7px; "&gt;&lt;a href="javascript:CNN_changeMosaicTab('cnnPhotoCmpnt','photos.html');" style="font-size: 10px; color: rgb(61, 117, 172); text-decoration: none; "&gt;more photos »&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="cnnWireBoxFooter" style="height: 4px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; background-image: url(http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.element/img/2.0/mosaic/base_skins/baseplate/corner_wire_BR._bg.gif); background-repeat: no-repeat; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-position: 100% 0px; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.element/img/2.0/mosaic/base_skins/baseplate/corner_wire_BL.gif" alt="" width="4" height="4" style="display: block; " /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 12px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;Welcome to the first-ever public Christmas celebration in Baghdad, held Saturday and sponsored by the Iraqi Interior Ministry. Once thought to be infiltrated by death squads, the Ministry now is trying to root out sectarian violence -- as well as improve its P.R. image.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 12px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;The event takes place in a public park in eastern Baghdad, ringed with security checkpoints. Interior Ministry forces deployed on surrounding rooftops peer down at the scene: a Christmas tree decorated with ornaments and tinsel; a red-costumed Santa Claus waving to the crowd, an Iraqi flag draped over his shoulders; a red-and-black-uniformed military band playing stirring martial music, not Christmas carols.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 12px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;On a large stage, children dressed in costumes representing Iraq's many ethnic and religious groups -- Kurds, Turkmen, Yazidis, Christians, Arab Muslims not defined as Sunni or Shiite -- hold their hands aloft and sing "We are building Iraq!" Two young boys, a mini-policeman and a mini-soldier sporting painted-on mustaches, march stiffly and salute.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 12px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-5599125455335254996?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/5599125455335254996/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=5599125455335254996' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5599125455335254996'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5599125455335254996'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/12/jesus-in-baghdad.html' title='jesus in baghdad'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-1384861719005239296</id><published>2008-08-31T18:24:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-08-31T18:33:46.074-07:00</updated><title type='text'>ramadan, lent</title><content type='html'>I went into my favorite spot for Lebanese food this evening, picked up some maza and falafel to go.  Tomorrow starts Ramadan, shopkeep said, so there'll be a special evening menu throughout the month.  We chatted for a bit.  His mom is Muslim, his dad Christian.  He fasts for Ramadan and Lent.  I feel such affection for Islam during Ramadan.  May we all break our fasts together one day, En'shallah.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some Ramadan blogs:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://ramadankareem.blogspot.com/"&gt;http://ramadankareem.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;/&lt;a href="http://thehijablog.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/ramadan-kareem/"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://thehijablog.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/ramadan-kareem/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://jewaira.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/ramadan-blessings/"&gt;http://jewaira.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/ramadan-blessings/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.maryams.net/dervish/2008/08/31/ramadan-mubarak/"&gt;http://www.maryams.net/dervish/2008/08/31/ramadan-mubarak/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://masbury.wordpress.com/2007/09/12/ramadan-greetings/"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 608px; height: 455px;" src="http://masbury.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/ramadan-wallpaper1-1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-1384861719005239296?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/1384861719005239296/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=1384861719005239296' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/1384861719005239296'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/1384861719005239296'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/08/ramadan-lent.html' title='ramadan, lent'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-8045404063900843337</id><published>2008-08-31T16:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-08-31T16:59:13.252-07:00</updated><title type='text'>this green and pleasant land</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://englishheretic.blogspot.com/2008/06/cult-of-ku.html"&gt;http://englishheretic.blogspot.com/2008/06/cult-of-ku.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'&lt;blockquote&gt;I was dismayed to read in Dave Evans’ recent book “The History Of British Magick After Crowley” a section in which he doubted the sources of Kenneth Grant’s fascinating discoveries of a form of Oriental black magick known as Ku. The gist of Evans’ argument was that he had contacted the University of Pennsylvania (from where Grant stated the Journal was published) and that they had never heard of the journal that Grant mentions in Hecate’s Fountain . So I decided to do a search myself. The journal and article is referenced at the back of a number of Grant’s books – as attributed to two authors: Shyrock and Feng. After a small amount of ‘googling’, I am delighted to say the article not only exists, but that the secretary of the American Oriental Society was kind enough to furnish me with a pdf of the article. Rather than freely disseminate the pdf, which would be doing a disservice to the AOS, I would suggest anybody with a real interest in obtaining a copy can email me and I'll provide details on how to obtain the journal article.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-8045404063900843337?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/8045404063900843337/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=8045404063900843337' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8045404063900843337'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8045404063900843337'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/08/this-green-and-pleasant-land.html' title='this green and pleasant land'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-4637861143159163136</id><published>2008-08-27T08:04:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-08-27T08:11:58.778-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Borg: a way, the way</title><content type='html'>Christianity as "a way": Marcus Borg (&lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2008/08/rob-bell-and-marcus-borg/"&gt;via apprising&lt;/a&gt;). "The cross is both personal and political."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/bPmPsTAMZKM&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/bPmPsTAMZKM&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-4637861143159163136?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/4637861143159163136/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=4637861143159163136' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/4637861143159163136'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/4637861143159163136'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/08/borg-way-way.html' title='Borg: a way, the way'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-5296919944522934329</id><published>2008-08-27T07:35:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-08-27T08:04:01.288-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Song of Songs</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080826/it-s-about-the-relationship.htm"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 50px; height: 50px;" src="http://www.fleshmap.com/listen/img50/breasts.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Text analysis homonculi of poetry is at &lt;a href="http://www.fleshmap.com/listen/rebus_gallery.html"&gt;fleshmap.com&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;Here is &lt;a href="http://www.fleshmap.com/listen/rebus_static_solomon.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Song of Songs&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://apprising.org/2008/08/rob-bell-and-marcus-borg/"&gt;It's&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://christianresearchnetwork.com/?p=6275"&gt;not&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://bittersweetsurrender.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/from-sex-god-by-rob-bell/"&gt;all&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://jenellparis.blogspot.com/2008/08/nooma-film-trailer-for-rob-bells-new.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;just&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://bethquick.blogspot.com/2008/08/review-sex-god-by-rob-bell.html"&gt;sex&lt;/a&gt;, but it is mighty sensual.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://theresurgence.com/node/1080"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 50px; height: 50px;" src="http://www.fleshmap.com/listen/img50/mouth.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-5296919944522934329?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/5296919944522934329/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=5296919944522934329' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5296919944522934329'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5296919944522934329'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/08/song-of-songs.html' title='Song of Songs'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-4432715291640040311</id><published>2008-07-01T11:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-01T11:32:50.927-07:00</updated><title type='text'>heidi montag: kinda baptist</title><content type='html'>&lt;div id="quotesImgCopy"&gt;          &lt;div class="image"&gt;           &lt;div class="thumbnail"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/quotes/0,26174,1819379,00.html"&gt;&lt;img src="http://img.timeinc.net/time/quotes/2008/07/0701_montag.jpg" alt="Heidi Montag" title="Heidi Montag" height="454" width="384" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;          &lt;/div&gt;          &lt;div class="copy"&gt;          &lt;div class="date"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/quotes/0,26174,1819379,00.html"&gt;Tuesday, Jul. 01, 2008&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;           &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/quotes/0,26174,1819379,00.html"&gt;&lt;img id="openQuote" src="http://img.timeinc.net/time/i/icon_quote1.gif" alt="Open quote" height="17" width="20" /&gt;Jesus was persecuted, and I'm going to get persecuted, ya know?&lt;img id="closeQuote" src="http://img.timeinc.net/time/i/icon_quote2.gif" alt="Close quote" height="17" width="20" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;           &lt;ul class="byquote"&gt;&lt;li class="by bold"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/quotes/0,26174,1819379,00.html"&gt;HEIDI MONTAG,&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="context"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/quotes/0,26174,1819379,00.html"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Hills&lt;/i&gt; star, who describes herself as "kind of nondenominational Baptist"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;          &lt;/div&gt;         &lt;/div&gt;                   &lt;div class="credits"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/quotes/0,26174,1819379,00.html"&gt;           Photo: Frazer Harrison / Getty | Source: AP&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-4432715291640040311?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/4432715291640040311/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=4432715291640040311' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/4432715291640040311'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/4432715291640040311'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/07/heidi-montag-kinda-baptist.html' title='heidi montag: kinda baptist'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-4654950000328014897</id><published>2008-06-24T18:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-25T06:10:46.261-07:00</updated><title type='text'>obama dobson 2</title><content type='html'>James Dobson and Barack Obama on political efforts, religious efforts, and the role of politics in religion, and the role of religion in politics:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Street Prophets: &lt;a href="http://www.streetprophets.com/storyonly/2008/6/24/111520/728"&gt;Confused Theology?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;CNN: &lt;a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/24/evangelical.vote/index.html"&gt;Distorting the Bible?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And doesn't Dobson's claims of distortion hinge on dispensationalism?  I think Obama has higher theological ground here because he's saying "honestly, let's take the Bible as a whole seriously, then let's figure out how to conduct ourselves publicly, plurally." Dobson's position is necessarily more weak, because he must at once defend the passages in the Torah which condemn homosexuality, but he then must say that taking the other legalistic passages as seriously as Obama suggests we must is bad form.  &lt;a href="http://dangreenonpolitics.blogspot.com/2008/06/dr-james-dobson-gets-it-right-on.html"&gt;Dobson's position is clearly the more confused of the two&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, this is not a theological argument.  This is a debate about faith &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;and&lt;/span&gt; secular democracy.  Obama, by admitting to the tough parts of Leviticus then talking about how best to navigate our way faithfully through modern American life shows himself in a much stronger position than the &lt;a href="http://rightfromtheright.blogspot.com/2008/06/dobson-accuses-obama-of-distorting.html"&gt;Dobson camp&lt;/a&gt; would like.  &lt;a href="http://rightrunner.blogspot.com/2008/06/dobson-obamas-understanding-of-bible-is.html"&gt;They're scared of Obama because Obama is right and they are wrong&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/dr-dobson-has-just-handed_b_108989.html"&gt;cracks are showing in the old &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;quid pro quo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; between the religious right and the  economic and constitutional conservatives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dobson#Views_on_tolerance_and_diversity"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 173px; height: 199px;" src="http://photos.state.gov/libraries/usinfo-photo/39/week_3/011907-obama-200.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-4654950000328014897?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/4654950000328014897/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=4654950000328014897' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/4654950000328014897'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/4654950000328014897'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-dobson-2.html' title='obama dobson 2'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-3064023494134931879</id><published>2008-06-11T05:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-11T06:09:25.381-07:00</updated><title type='text'>infinitude</title><content type='html'>Reading this at &lt;a href="http://www.theriverlethe.com/?p=521"&gt;Songs of Unforgetting&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2 class="title"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theriverlethe.com/?p=521" rel="bookmark"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;h2 class="title"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theriverlethe.com/?p=521" rel="bookmark"&gt;The Infinite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;                                      &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;An infinite that excludes the finite is not truly infinite; it is limited by that which still lies outside of it. The “truly infinite” (das wahrhaft Unendliche) is that infinite which includes all finites within it, for it alone is limited by nothing whatsoever outside itself.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;p&gt;Philip Clayton&lt;/p&gt;                                              Tags: &lt;a href="http://www.theriverlethe.com/?tag=god" rel="tag"&gt;god&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.theriverlethe.com/?tag=infinite" rel="tag"&gt;infinite&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.theriverlethe.com/?tag=panentheism" rel="tag"&gt;panentheism&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.theriverlethe.com/?tag=philip-clayton" rel="tag"&gt;Philip Clayton&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.theriverlethe.com/?tag=quotes" rel="tag"&gt;quotes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theriverlethe.com/?tag=quotes" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Makes me wonder about old James Carse, about &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Finite and Infinite Games&lt;/span&gt;, and if finite games can exist within infinite games... if memory's working, I think Carse covers that and posits they can and do (a timed game of chess within a infinite game of simulated city building, for example?).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's a &lt;a href="http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/13762141"&gt;good book&lt;/a&gt;.  That needs more play, theological and otherwise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's Carse talking about religion (skip to the 5 minute mark) at the &lt;a href="http://www.longnow.org/projects/seminars/"&gt;Long Now Foundation&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;embed id="VideoPlayback" style="width: 400px; height: 326px;" allowfullscreen="true" flashvars="fs=true" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-962221125884493114&amp;amp;hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-3064023494134931879?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/3064023494134931879/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=3064023494134931879' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3064023494134931879'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3064023494134931879'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/06/infinitude.html' title='infinitude'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2593850770857606660</id><published>2008-05-28T11:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-28T11:38:36.781-07:00</updated><title type='text'>rob bell, bullhorn</title><content type='html'>Rob Bell...&lt;br /&gt;"the way you love others is the way you love god... that is the way of jesus..."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/t4626LYgQOA&amp;hl=en"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/t4626LYgQOA&amp;hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ApGBz3vNSfA&amp;hl=en"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ApGBz3vNSfA&amp;hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2593850770857606660?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2593850770857606660/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2593850770857606660' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2593850770857606660'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2593850770857606660'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/05/rob-bell-bullhorn.html' title='rob bell, bullhorn'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2280380870609767380</id><published>2008-05-12T18:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-12T18:14:22.351-07:00</updated><title type='text'>latin site:.va</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="mxb"&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7393548.stm"&gt;BBC:&lt;/a&gt;     &lt;h1&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="mxb"&gt;&lt;h1&gt;      Vatican gives Latin online boost     &lt;/h1&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;                                                                                &lt;!-- S BO --&gt; &lt;!-- S IIMA --&gt;&lt;p&gt;         &lt;!-- E IIMA --&gt; &lt;!-- S SF --&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="first"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Roman Catholic Church, for centuries a bastion of Latin usage, has given the ancient tongue a 21st Century boost by launching a website in Latin.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="first"&gt;&lt;img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44643000/jpg/_44643435_latinmass226afp.jpg" alt="Monsignor Ignacio Barreiro Carambula celebrates the Tridentine mass in Rome, July 2007" border="0" height="170" hspace="0" vspace="0" width="226" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p class="first"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2280380870609767380?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2280380870609767380/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2280380870609767380' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2280380870609767380'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2280380870609767380'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/05/latin-siteva.html' title='latin site:.va'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-3314679992448957869</id><published>2008-04-19T09:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-04-19T09:39:52.378-07:00</updated><title type='text'>c.o.e. says: 'no Blake'; e.l.p.: rocked</title><content type='html'>A report by Gnostic priest &lt;a href="http://jordanstratford.blogspot.com/2008/04/dark-satanic-mills-coe-bans-blake.html"&gt;Jordan Stratford&lt;/a&gt; that the Church of England has banned the Blake hymn because it's "too nationalistic"...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_did_those_feet_in_ancient_time"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 258px; height: 365px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/17/Milton_preface.jpg/250px-Milton_preface.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You know, ELP did a kickass version of that back in ,73...&lt;br /&gt;One of my favorite hymns &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;and&lt;/span&gt; one of my favorite prog rock tracks...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_Salad_Surgery"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 296px; height: 285px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/ELP_-_Brain_Salad_Surgery.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(can't mention ELP's BSS without saying "&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karn_Evil_9"&gt;Karn Evil 9&lt;/a&gt;" is one of the best songs of the 20th Century --- in our family, it's a grab something to drink, dim the lights, sit down, and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;listen for all 30 minutes&lt;/span&gt; kind of song.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyways, all this reminds me of &lt;a href="http://www.kinkyfriedman.com/"&gt;Kinky Friedman's line&lt;/a&gt; when he ran for Governor: this is the wussification of Texas!  And banning hymns on grounds of nationalism is kind of wussified.  Stratford points out briefly that you can take it metaphorically, but seems post-modern liberal Christians would rather not have to do the work of taking things metaphorically.  It'd be too much like eating barbecue.  It'd get their hands dirty with the wrong kind of company, huh?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Folks forget: Jesus was (is!) all &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;about&lt;/span&gt; the '&lt;a href="http://www.churchunderthebridge.org/"&gt;wrong kind of company&lt;/a&gt;'.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-3314679992448957869?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/3314679992448957869/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=3314679992448957869' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3314679992448957869'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3314679992448957869'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/04/coe-says-no-blake-elp-rocked.html' title='c.o.e. says: &apos;no Blake&apos;; e.l.p.: rocked'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-8108665296743197647</id><published>2008-04-19T08:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-04-19T08:53:47.664-07:00</updated><title type='text'>crappy christians</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://icali.tv/images/podshow.png"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 115px; height: 160px;" src="http://icali.tv/images/podshow.png" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whatever happened to &lt;a href="http://www.podfeed.net/podcast/The+Crappy+Christian+Show/3055"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Crappy Christian Show&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;I mean, is it totally out of &lt;a href="http://icali.tv/"&gt;production &lt;/a&gt;these years?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"If you were offended by the Janet Jackson breast incident, this show isn’t for you. If you are anti-gay, anti-porn, anti-drinking, anti-cussing and anti-loving people just the way they are, this show isn’t for you. Everyone else, grab a drink, subscribe and we’ll have some fun!"&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-8108665296743197647?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/8108665296743197647/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=8108665296743197647' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8108665296743197647'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8108665296743197647'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/04/crappy-christians.html' title='crappy christians'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-8798181151475254785</id><published>2008-04-13T19:04:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-04-13T20:02:43.352-07:00</updated><title type='text'>hello to papa</title><content type='html'>The Pope &lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1727724,00.html?xid=rss-topstories"&gt;visiting America&lt;/a&gt; has got me thinking a lot about the Catholic Church...  On one hand, I find the idea of coming home to a "universal" church family very warming -- to be welcomed into the body of Christ.  But on the other, I've got major beef with Catholic doctrine.  The church is a &lt;a href="http://deacbench.blogspot.com/2008/04/are-catholics-happy-campers.html"&gt;church of man&lt;/a&gt;, of the world.  The church is not the Kingdom.  But still... I feel drawn to show up to a mass again, to see if there's a way, some way, to make peace with this little church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm afraid there really isn't.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2008/0804/a_wpope_0414.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 370px; height: 241px;" src="http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2008/0804/a_wpope_0414.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The body of Christ, after all, is everywhere, always.  It's in bread, wine, pillbugs, soap, gelatin, soda, pork chops, shoes, jewelry, gasoline, cardboard lean-tos, tampons, tortillas, mitres, rice, rosary beads, park benches, mosque flagstones, and silly red hats.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-8798181151475254785?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/8798181151475254785/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=8798181151475254785' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8798181151475254785'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8798181151475254785'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/04/hello-to-papa.html' title='hello to papa'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-1170668288013596157</id><published>2008-04-07T10:50:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-04-07T10:51:59.019-07:00</updated><title type='text'>fishy mitre</title><content type='html'>From Deo's Shadow &lt;a href="http://www.deos-shadow.com/?p=64"&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Dagon: described as&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;god of the Philistines, is mentioned heavily in the Bible as “the Zeus of the plough.” The earliest mention of Dagon is from ancient Sumeria in 2500 B.C.E, translated from the Mari Tablets which discovered by French archaeologists in the 1930’s.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.deos-shadow.com/?p=64"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 292px; height: 269px;" src="http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w85/Purplecheza/other/Pagan%20Sun%20Worship/THEDRA1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-1170668288013596157?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/1170668288013596157/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=1170668288013596157' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/1170668288013596157'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/1170668288013596157'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/04/fishy-mitre.html' title='fishy mitre'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2225917182844525218</id><published>2008-04-04T19:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-04-04T19:55:00.223-07:00</updated><title type='text'>peace with nicene creed</title><content type='html'>Seems dishonest to sit in a pew by folks who believe it literally and completely, if you're sitting there accepting it as metaphor, as symbol.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what else could it be? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What else could it really be, and how else are we meant to engage it but as a meta-parable?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's hard to find peace with the Nicene Creed.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2225917182844525218?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2225917182844525218/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2225917182844525218' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2225917182844525218'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2225917182844525218'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/04/peace-with-nicene-creed.html' title='peace with nicene creed'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-4149042903990844984</id><published>2008-03-30T20:32:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-30T20:36:05.600-07:00</updated><title type='text'>good luck getting them to visit your town</title><content type='html'>Them Johannites are scarcer than summer squash in Antarctica.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://johannite.org/blog/"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 151px; height: 211px;" src="http://johannite.org/images/seal.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But they'll be in San Francisco this &lt;a href="http://johannite.org/blog/?p=24"&gt;May 2008&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-4149042903990844984?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/4149042903990844984/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=4149042903990844984' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/4149042903990844984'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/4149042903990844984'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/good-luck-getting-them-to-visit-your.html' title='good luck getting them to visit your town'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-4873289613660547666</id><published>2008-03-30T20:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-30T21:54:19.375-07:00</updated><title type='text'>egina3: hail Sophia, Hypatia, Eve, Mary, Lilith...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3285/2371308021_dacfb0c414_o.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 372px; height: 680px;" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3285/2371308021_dacfb0c414_o.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Jordan Stratford blogs at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://jordanstratford.blogspot.com/"&gt;http://jordanstratford.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A good little blog by a Gnostic priest, previously of &lt;a href="http://egina2.blogspot.com/"&gt;http://egina2.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gnostic artsy talk continues.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-4873289613660547666?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/4873289613660547666/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=4873289613660547666' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/4873289613660547666'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/4873289613660547666'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/egina3-hail-sophia-hypatia-eve-mary.html' title='egina3: hail Sophia, Hypatia, Eve, Mary, Lilith...'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-7045452322872018149</id><published>2008-03-29T19:46:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-29T20:01:22.543-07:00</updated><title type='text'>my rock</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadi_Natroun"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 274px; height: 274px;" src="http://kingofpeace.org/images/jesusshowshands.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Last night I was struggling with my prayer.  My mind was all over the place (as is perpetual), and I was getting frustrated that I couldn't concentrate.  Then I noticed I was still "saying" my prayer.  Like noticing my feet were still solidly planted on a flagstone even though I was staring at the clouds.  I felt relieved and grateful, and very peaceful just then.  My prayer was an anchor.  And here was a presence, like honey, just gently and happily regarding me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After a while longer, I stopped.  I bowed my head and stretched from side to side.  I sat back upright again and looked around at the room.  The sofa and carpet and the clock and the lamps and television and chair and dog and books and cats were all still there.  They and me were all each separate, but also each &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;together&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was still.  Everything was still.  Everything was still praying?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Amen.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-7045452322872018149?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/7045452322872018149/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=7045452322872018149' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7045452322872018149'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7045452322872018149'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/my-rock.html' title='my rock'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-5953013169598608007</id><published>2008-03-20T19:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-20T19:35:04.119-07:00</updated><title type='text'>jesus for president?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Jesus for President.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Publisher’s Weekly &lt;a href="http://www.jesusforpresident.org/news/index.html"&gt;review here&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;    Jesus for President Shane Claiborne and Chris Haw. Zondervan, $16.99 paper (304p) ISBN 978-0-310-27842-9 Here is the must-read election-year book for Christian Americans. What should Christians do when allegiances to the state clash with personal faith? Haw and Claiborne (The Irresistible Revolution) slice through politics as usual and well past the superficial layers of the culture wars with their lucid exploration of how Christians can and should relate to presidents and kings, empire and government. Their entertaining yet provocative tour of the Bible's social and economic order makes even the most abstruse Levitical laws come alive for our era. They also provide a valuable political context for Christ's life, reminding readers that Jesus did not preach the need to put God back into government—he urged his followers to live by a different set of rules altogether, to hold themselves apart as peculiar people. The compelling writing is enhanced by a lavish, eye-popping layout. The pages are a riot of textured callouts, colors, photos and fonts—the perfect packaging for a message that must compete in a world of sound bites. With this second book, Claiborne emerges as an affable, intelligent, humorous prophet of his generation, calling people out of business-as-usual in a corrupt world and back to the radically different social order of the biblical God. (Mar.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm looking forward to reading the book.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Top of head:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let the president be the president, let the Christ be the Christ.  Render unto Caesar.  The Kingdom ain't political.  Jesus wasn't a Marxist.  "What you do to the least of these, you do to me."  It ain't about butter nor guns -- but then how can it not be about butter or about guns?  "The Kingdom is both within and without."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-5953013169598608007?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/5953013169598608007/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=5953013169598608007' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5953013169598608007'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5953013169598608007'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/jesus-for-president.html' title='jesus for president?'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-1331645386452893574</id><published>2008-03-20T19:27:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-20T19:28:15.046-07:00</updated><title type='text'>shane claiborne's litany</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Akc_7O9A9-I&amp;hl=en"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Akc_7O9A9-I&amp;hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-1331645386452893574?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/1331645386452893574/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=1331645386452893574' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/1331645386452893574'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/1331645386452893574'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/shane-claibornes-litany.html' title='shane claiborne&apos;s litany'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-5371025694169642103</id><published>2008-03-20T19:08:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-20T19:18:56.412-07:00</updated><title type='text'>swank on liberation theology</title><content type='html'>Some of what Mr. Swank has said about Black Liberation Theology is true -- and he's made good points about the intent of &lt;a href="http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/black-liberation-theology.html"&gt;Liberation Theology&lt;/a&gt;, I think.  He hasn't always, though, and I read the general thrust of his take as wrongheaded.  But this (&lt;a href="http://jgrantswankjr.blogspot.com/2008/03/obama-vs-black-liberal-theology-no_20.html"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;) is just nonsense.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And re: liberation theology generally: if those with worldly power have made you suffer by keeping you from participating in worldly power, it ain't fair and it ain't right, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;but&lt;/span&gt;, the Kingdom of Heaven is about rejecting worldly power altogether and embracing unconditional Love in the name of Jesus.  Liberation comes through the practice of love, as I see it.  Now I know there &lt;a href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/marcus_borg/"&gt;are those&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://community.beliefnet.com/video/3987"&gt;who understand Jesus' message as one primarily of social change and social justice&lt;/a&gt; -- and I can't deny that His message is also that.  But the Kingdom?  It isn't of this world.  If we realize it though, it utterly transforms this world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So it goes: Love, then Justice.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-5371025694169642103?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/5371025694169642103/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=5371025694169642103' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5371025694169642103'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5371025694169642103'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/swank-on-liberation-theology.html' title='swank on liberation theology'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2307015803289847007</id><published>2008-03-20T18:46:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-20T18:55:24.653-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Dietrich Bonhoeffer</title><content type='html'>Just found my way to a copy of &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=oEmU3WHZOFMC"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Cost of Discipleship&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://christianmystics.com/?p=148"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;" src="http://www.subversiveinfluence.com/images/blogposts/bonhoeffer.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2307015803289847007?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2307015803289847007/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2307015803289847007' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2307015803289847007'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2307015803289847007'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/dietrich-bonhoeffer.html' title='Dietrich Bonhoeffer'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-1127560974961829872</id><published>2008-03-20T18:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-20T18:39:58.945-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Rosicrucians</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucian"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Templeofrosycross.png" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucian#Rosicrucian_Christian_groups"&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Rosicrucian Christian groups [wikipedia]:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_Christian" class="mw-redirect" title="Esoteric Christian"&gt;Esoteric Christian&lt;/a&gt; Rosicrucian schools providing preparation through the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occultism" class="mw-redirect" title="Occultism"&gt;occult study&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysticism" title="Mysticism"&gt;mystic living&lt;/a&gt; of the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric" class="mw-redirect" title="Esoteric"&gt;esoteric&lt;/a&gt; knowledge related to the inner teachings of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity" title="Christianity"&gt;Christianity&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;sup id="_ref-35" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucian#_note-35" title=""&gt;[36]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rosicrucian_Fellowship" class="mw-redirect" title="The Rosicrucian Fellowship"&gt;The Rosicrucian Fellowship&lt;/a&gt;, 1909/11: its teachings are &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_Christian" class="mw-redirect" title="Esoteric Christian"&gt;Esoteric Christian&lt;/a&gt; and claim to present the &lt;i&gt;mysteries&lt;/i&gt;, in the form of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_knowledge" class="mw-redirect" title="Esoteric knowledge"&gt;esoteric knowledge&lt;/a&gt;, which the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ#Esoteric_Christian_tradition" title="Christ"&gt;Christ&lt;/a&gt; spoke of in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Matthew" title="Gospel of Matthew"&gt;Matthew&lt;/a&gt; 13:11 and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Luke" title="Gospel of Luke"&gt;Luke&lt;/a&gt; 8:10; it seeks to prepare the individual through harmonious development of the mind (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occultist" class="mw-redirect" title="Occultist"&gt;occultist&lt;/a&gt;) and the heart (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysticism" title="Mysticism"&gt;mystic&lt;/a&gt;) in a spirit of unselfish service to mankind and an all-embracing &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altruism" title="Altruism"&gt;altruism&lt;/a&gt;. According to this Fellowship, the Rosicrucian Order was founded in the year &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1313" title="1313"&gt;1313&lt;/a&gt;&lt;sup id="_ref-36" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucian#_note-36" title=""&gt;[37]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; and is composed by twelve exalted Beings gathered around a thirteenth, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Rosenkreuz" title="Christian Rosenkreuz"&gt;Christian Rosenkreuz&lt;/a&gt;; these great Adepts are presented as belonging to the human evolution but have already advanced far beyond the cycle of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation" title="Reincarnation"&gt;rebirth&lt;/a&gt;; their mission is explained as aiming to prepare the &lt;i&gt;whole wide world&lt;/i&gt; for a new phase in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion" title="Religion"&gt;religion&lt;/a&gt;—which includes awareness of the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plane_%28cosmology%29" class="mw-redirect" title="Plane (cosmology)"&gt;inner worlds&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtle_bodies" class="mw-redirect" title="Subtle bodies"&gt;subtle bodies&lt;/a&gt;, and to provide safe guidance in the gradual awakening of man's latent &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality" title="Spirituality"&gt;spiritual&lt;/a&gt; faculties during the next six centuries toward the coming &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Aquarius" class="mw-redirect" title="Age of Aquarius"&gt;Age of Aquarius&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;sup id="_ref-37" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucian#_note-37" title=""&gt;[38]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;According to major occult writers, the Order of the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Cross" title="Rose Cross"&gt;Rose Cross&lt;/a&gt; is for the first time expounded in the major Christian literary work that has molded the subsequent spiritual views of the western civilization: &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Divine_Comedy" class="mw-redirect" title="The Divine Comedy"&gt;The Divine Comedy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; (ca. 1308–1321) by &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante_Alighieri" title="Dante Alighieri"&gt;Dante Alighieri&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;sup id="_ref-38" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucian#_note-38" title=""&gt;[39]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; &lt;sup id="_ref-39" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucian#_note-39" title=""&gt;[40]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; &lt;sup id="_ref-40" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucian#_note-40" title=""&gt;[41]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthroposophical_Society" title="Anthroposophical Society"&gt;Anthroposophical Society&lt;/a&gt;, 1912&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lectorium_Rosicrucianum" title="Lectorium Rosicrucianum"&gt;Lectorium Rosicrucianum&lt;/a&gt;, 1935&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archeosophical_Society" title="Archeosophical Society"&gt;Archeosophical Society&lt;/a&gt;, 1968&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-1127560974961829872?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/1127560974961829872/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=1127560974961829872' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/1127560974961829872'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/1127560974961829872'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/rosicrucians.html' title='Rosicrucians'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-6662310353509733981</id><published>2008-03-20T18:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-20T18:32:28.167-07:00</updated><title type='text'>megachurch at wikipedia</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.mediawatch.com/gallery/albums/album01/grease.sized.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;" src="http://www.mediawatch.com/gallery/albums/album01/grease.sized.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McChurch"&gt;McChurch&lt;/a&gt;       &lt;h3 id="siteSub"&gt;From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia&lt;/h3&gt;                 &lt;!-- start content --&gt;    &lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;McChurch&lt;/b&gt; is a &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McWords" title="McWords"&gt;McWord&lt;/a&gt; used to suggest that a particular church has a strong element of entertainment, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumerism" title="Consumerism"&gt;consumerism&lt;/a&gt; or commercialism which obscures its religious aspects. The term is sometimes used as a &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derogatory" class="mw-redirect" title="Derogatory"&gt;derogatory&lt;/a&gt; synonym for &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megachurch" title="Megachurch"&gt;megachurch&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;table id="toc" class="toc" summary="Contents"&gt; &lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt; &lt;div id="toctitle"&gt; &lt;h2&gt;Contents&lt;/h2&gt;  &lt;span class="toctoggle"&gt;[&lt;a href="javascript:toggleToc()" class="internal" id="togglelink"&gt;hide&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li class="toclevel-1"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McChurch#Elements_of_a_McChurch"&gt;&lt;span class="tocnumber"&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="toctext"&gt;Elements of a McChurch&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="toclevel-1"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McChurch#Related_words"&gt;&lt;span class="tocnumber"&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="toctext"&gt;Related words&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="toclevel-1"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McChurch#See_also"&gt;&lt;span class="tocnumber"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="toctext"&gt;See also&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="toclevel-1"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McChurch#References"&gt;&lt;span class="tocnumber"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="toctext"&gt;References&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="toclevel-1"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McChurch#External_links"&gt;&lt;span class="tocnumber"&gt;5&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="toctext"&gt;External links&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt; &lt;script type="text/javascript"&gt; //&lt;![CDATA[  if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = "show"; var tocHideText = "hide"; showTocToggle(); }  //]]&gt; &lt;/script&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Elements_of_a_McChurch" id="Elements_of_a_McChurch"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h2&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Elements of a McChurch&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;p&gt;The precise origins of the term McChurch are unclear, dating back to at least the early 1990s. Prominent media sources using the term include:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Colson" title="Charles Colson"&gt;Charles Colson&lt;/a&gt;'s 1994 book &lt;i&gt;The Body&lt;/i&gt;, which describes a McChurch that the author attended in Japan. The author also uses the term "Hot Tub Religion" to express the same sentiment.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robert McClory's 1992 article "Superchurch", published in the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" title="United States"&gt;U.S.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_newsweekly" class="mw-redirect" title="Alternative newsweekly"&gt;alternative newsweekly&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chicago_Reader" class="mw-redirect" title="The Chicago Reader"&gt;The Chicago Reader&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;. This article describes &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willow_Creek_Community_Church" title="Willow Creek Community Church"&gt;Willow Creek Community Church&lt;/a&gt;, a &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megachurch" title="Megachurch"&gt;megachurch&lt;/a&gt; in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Barrington%2C_Illinois" title="South Barrington, Illinois"&gt;South Barrington, Illinois&lt;/a&gt; as a McChurch.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine" title="Maine"&gt;Maine&lt;/a&gt; State Representative Stan Moody's 2006 book "McChurched" which describes a pervasive consumerism in the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicalism" title="Evangelicalism"&gt;evangelical&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian" title="Christian"&gt;Christian&lt;/a&gt; community. Moody, a &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29" title="Democratic Party (United States)"&gt;Democrat&lt;/a&gt;, attributes this sentiment to the incorporation of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_%28United_States%29" title="Republican Party (United States)"&gt;Republican&lt;/a&gt; pro-capitalist influence into the religious community.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dan Schaeffer's article "McChurch" in the 2002 issue of the Christian-themed &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Plain_Truth" title="The Plain Truth"&gt;Plain Truth Magazine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;. Schaeffer states that many Christian churches have "gone Las Vegas" in order to grow their congregations.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;Elements of a McChurch common to these and other sources include the following:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Gift shops, coffee shops, and other revenue-generating amenities incorporated into the main structure of the church building.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Services focus on presentation, via skits or music, at the expense of doctrinal discussion.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Placement in suburban or &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commuter_town" title="Commuter town"&gt;exurban&lt;/a&gt; areas to attract an upper middle class clientele, ostensibly to boost donations.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Participation in other revenue-generating activities, such as selling curriculum materials or &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchising" title="Franchising"&gt;franchising&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;Despite these common elements, the term is understood differently by conventional (secular) and Christian media sources. Secular sources, such as McClory and Moody contend that a McChurch promotes socially conservative political philosophy. On the other hand, Christian sources such as Colson and Schaeffer define a McChurch's theology as unduly permissive, especially with respect to sexual behavior, which both authors suggest is a ploy to boost membership and donations.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Related_words" id="Related_words"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h2&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Related words&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;p&gt;A number of similar derogatory words having somewhat the same connotation of McChurch have arisen, including "God Incorporated," "ChristCo," "Six Flags Over Jesus," "McJesus," "Fort God", "Religion Lite", "McEucharist" and "Krispy Kreme Christianity".&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="See_also" id="See_also"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h2&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;See also&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McWords" title="McWords"&gt;McWords&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megachurch" title="Megachurch"&gt;Megachurch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons" title="The Simpsons"&gt;The Simpsons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; episode &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She_of_Little_Faith" title="She of Little Faith"&gt;She of Little Faith&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsong" class="mw-redirect" title="Hillsong"&gt;Hillsong&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;---&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are you a member of a really big church?  How does it help you?  How does it hurt?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I remember some sociology class in college, the issue of consumer culture came up and we were talking about the advent of sunday morning shoppers -- those folks who, looking for some way to connect to their communities but not able to stomach a church service they felt was false, went out to Target or somewhere to do their shopping and see others from their town.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Has church, under megachurches, become a product to be consumed?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-6662310353509733981?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/6662310353509733981/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=6662310353509733981' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6662310353509733981'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6662310353509733981'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/megachurch-at-wikipedia.html' title='megachurch at wikipedia'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-9052141072302532341</id><published>2008-03-20T18:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-20T18:18:37.318-07:00</updated><title type='text'>black liberation theology</title><content type='html'>Worth considering, these days, what with Barack Obama's preacher's sermons bringing the issue into wide discussion: Liberation Theology...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From Wikipedia &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_theology"&gt;is&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Theological basis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;p&gt;Black liberation theology is &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theology" title="Theology"&gt;theology&lt;/a&gt; from the perspective of the African diaspora. The message of black theology is that the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American" title="African American"&gt;African American&lt;/a&gt; struggle for liberation is consistent with the gospel--every theological statement must be consistent with, and perpetuate, the goals of liberation. This theology maintains that African Americans must be liberated from multiple forms of bondage—social, political, economic and religious. This liberation involves empowerment and seeks the right of self-definition, self-affirmation and self-determination.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The modern American origins of contemporary black liberation theology can be traced to July 31, 1966, when an ad hoc group of 51 black pastors, calling themselves the National Committee of Negro Churchmen (NCNC), bought a full page ad in the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times" class="mw-redirect" title="New York Times"&gt;New York Times&lt;/a&gt; to publish their "Black Power Statement," which proposed a more aggressive approach to combating racism using the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible" title="Bible"&gt;Bible&lt;/a&gt; for inspiration.&lt;sup id="cite_ref-0" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_theology#cite_note-0" title=""&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cone_%28theologian%29" class="mw-redirect" title="James Cone (theologian)"&gt;James Cone&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Hopkins" title="Dwight Hopkins"&gt;Dwight Hopkins&lt;/a&gt; are considered the leading theologians of this system of belief, although now there are may scholars who have contributed a great deal to the field. It was Cone who in the spring of 1969 published the seminal work that systemized black liberation theology, &lt;i&gt;Black Theology and Black Power&lt;/i&gt; (1969). In the book, Cone asserted that not only was black power not alien to the Gospel, it was, in fact, the Gospel message for all of 20th century America.&lt;sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_theology#cite_note-1" title=""&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_theology#cite_note-2" title=""&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Controversy" id="Controversy"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h2&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Controversy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;p&gt;Controversy over the theology surfaced during the 2008 presidential campaign as &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama" title="Barack Obama"&gt;Barack Obama&lt;/a&gt; strongly denounced some of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Wright" title="Jeremiah Wright"&gt;Jeremiah Wright&lt;/a&gt;'s speeches which had been called divisive by press stories. That pastor had stated that his church was founded on black theology. When tapes were put for sale by the church after Wright's retirement, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_News" title="ABC News"&gt;ABC News&lt;/a&gt; publicized several controversial sermons. &lt;sup id="cite_ref-abc1_0" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_theology#cite_note-abc1" title=""&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; Wright's sermons were heavily critical of the United States Government, saying of the events of September 11, 2001: "The stuff we have done overseas is brought right back into our homes". He also said "people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just 'disappeared' as the Great White West went on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns."&lt;sup id="cite_ref-kantor2_0" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_theology#cite_note-kantor2" title=""&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;In other sermons, he said "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color", referring to &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_origins_theories" title="AIDS origins theories"&gt;AIDS origins theories&lt;/a&gt;, and "The government gives them the drugs [referring to the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_Affair" title="Iran-Contra Affair"&gt;Iran-Contra Affair&lt;/a&gt;], builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people...God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme".&lt;sup id="cite_ref-pallasch1_0" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_theology#cite_note-pallasch1" title=""&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_theology#cite_note-3" title=""&gt;[7]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sup id="cite_ref-abc1_1" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_theology#cite_note-abc1" title=""&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="South_African_Black_theology" id="South_African_Black_theology"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h2&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;South African Black theology&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;p&gt;Black Theology was popularised in southern Africa in the early &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970s" title="1970s"&gt;1970s&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Moore" title="Basil Moore"&gt;Basil Moore&lt;/a&gt;, a &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methodist" class="mw-redirect" title="Methodist"&gt;Methodist&lt;/a&gt; theologian in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa" title="South Africa"&gt;South Africa&lt;/a&gt;. It helped to give rise to, and developed in parallel with, the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Consciousness_Movement" title="Black Consciousness Movement"&gt;Black Consciousness Movement&lt;/a&gt;. Black Theology was particularly influential in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa" title="South Africa"&gt;South Africa&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namibia" title="Namibia"&gt;Namibia&lt;/a&gt; for motivating resistance to &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid" class="mw-redirect" title="Apartheid"&gt;apartheid&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Southern African black liberation theologians include &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Pityana" title="Barney Pityana"&gt;Barney Pityana&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Boesak" title="Allan Boesak"&gt;Allan Boesak&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Itumeleng_Mosala&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Itumeleng Mosala (page does not exist)"&gt;Itumeleng Mosala&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zephania_Kameeta" title="Zephania Kameeta"&gt;Zephania Kameeta&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Black_religious_scholars" id="Black_religious_scholars"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h2&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Black religious scholars&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;p&gt;North American black liberation theologians include:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr." class="mw-redirect" title="Martin Luther King Jr."&gt;Martin Luther King Jr.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Wright" title="Jeremiah Wright"&gt;Jeremiah Wright&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Katie Cannon&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hal_Cone" title="James Hal Cone"&gt;James H. Cone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;M. Shawn Copeland&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Diana L. Hayes&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;James Allen Hendrix, OP&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_N._Hopkins" class="mw-redirect" title="Dwight N. Hopkins"&gt;Dwight N. Hopkins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Peter Paris&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jamie T. Phelps OP&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_B._Pinn" title="Anthony B. Pinn"&gt;Anthony B. Pinn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_J._Raboteau" title="Albert J. Raboteau"&gt;Albert Raboteau&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;J. Deotis Roberts&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Emilie M. Townes&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Theodore Walker, Jr.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornel_West" title="Cornel West"&gt;Cornel West&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Delores Williams&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Preston Williams&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Gayraud S. Wilmore&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;In the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom" title="United Kingdom"&gt;United Kingdom&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Beckford" title="Robert Beckford"&gt;Dr Robert Beckford&lt;/a&gt; is the most well known black liberation theologian. He was the first theologian in the UK to develop and teach a course on &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Theology" class="mw-redirect" title="Black Theology"&gt;Black Theology&lt;/a&gt; at an academic level. &lt;i&gt;The International Journal of Black Theology&lt;/i&gt; is produced within the UK. It is edited by &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dr_Anthony_Reddie&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Dr Anthony Reddie (page does not exist)"&gt;Dr Anthony Reddie&lt;/a&gt;, who has written over 40 journal articles and essay, and is therefore, the most prolific Black theologian in the UK.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="See_also" id="See_also"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h2&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;See also&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology" title="Liberation theology"&gt;Liberation theology&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_consciousness_movement" class="mw-redirect" title="Black consciousness movement"&gt;Black consciousness movement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Africa" title="Christianity in Africa"&gt;Christianity in Africa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Theology" title="African Theology"&gt;African Theology&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Womanist_theology" title="Womanist theology"&gt;Womanist theology&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_theological_praxis" title="Christian theological praxis"&gt;Christian theological praxis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-9052141072302532341?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/9052141072302532341/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=9052141072302532341' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/9052141072302532341'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/9052141072302532341'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/black-liberation-theology.html' title='black liberation theology'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-7532937431548262372</id><published>2008-03-16T10:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-16T11:00:28.581-07:00</updated><title type='text'>eck, hu, eckankar; surat shabd yoga</title><content type='html'>What are the historical links and overlaps between &lt;a href="http://vrajeshbalussery.blogspot.com/2008/02/eckankarancient-wisdom-for-today.html"&gt;Eckankar&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://community.livejournal.com/radhasoami/73322.html"&gt;Surat Shabd&lt;/a&gt; Yoga or &lt;a href="http://santmatradhasoami.blogspot.com/2008/03/inner-visions-behold-moon-and-sun.html"&gt;Sant Mat&lt;/a&gt;?  Is Eck a Blavatsky-or-New-Thought-style Westernization of a salty old Sikh practice or what?  One thing that always raises my neck hairs is when these "ancient traditions" come packed with (c) copyright logos (instead of the authority of Logos).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.unity.org/"&gt;Unity (c)&lt;/a&gt; seems kinda like that -- appealing the like 19th Century liberal Christians who don't want to fall into the then-trendiness of &lt;a href="http://kimckorinek.blogspot.com/2008/03/open-position-christian-science.html"&gt;Christian Science&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eckankar"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 531px; height: 75px;" src="http://www.eckankar.org/Images/hdr_whatis2.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-7532937431548262372?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/7532937431548262372/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=7532937431548262372' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7532937431548262372'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7532937431548262372'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/eck-hu-eckankar-surat-shabd-yoga.html' title='eck, hu, eckankar; surat shabd yoga'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-1213432831501315091</id><published>2008-03-16T05:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-16T05:08:40.755-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Aramaic of Jesus</title><content type='html'>From {&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_of_Jesus"&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;}:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Cultural and linguistic background&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;p&gt;It is generally accepted that Jesus was born a &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew" title="Jew"&gt;Jew&lt;/a&gt;, and grew up in a Jewish family in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iudaea_Province" title="Iudaea Province"&gt;Judea&lt;/a&gt;. For over a half-millennium, the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloquial_language" class="mw-redirect" title="Colloquial language"&gt;colloquial language&lt;/a&gt; for Palestinian Jews was &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Aramaic_language" title="Judeo-Aramaic language"&gt;Judeo-Aramaic&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;sup id="_ref-0" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_of_Jesus#_note-0" title=""&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; stemming from the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_captivity" title="Babylonian captivity"&gt;Babylonian captivity&lt;/a&gt; and invading &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria" title="Assyria"&gt;Assyrian empire&lt;/a&gt;. Judeo-Aramaic was a version of standard &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_language" title="Aramaic language"&gt;Aramaic&lt;/a&gt; (which had originally been the language of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus" title="Damascus"&gt;Damascus&lt;/a&gt;) with a number of Hebrew words and some Hebrew-inspired grammar mixed in; the relation of Judeo-Aramaic to standard Aramaic is roughly comparable to the relation of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_language" title="Yiddish language"&gt;Yiddish&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_language" title="German language"&gt;German&lt;/a&gt;, although the difference between Judeo-Aramaic and standard Aramaic was less marked. For some Jews &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language" title="Hebrew language"&gt;Hebrew&lt;/a&gt; remained a colloquial language, until the end of the 3rd century AD.&lt;sup class="noprint Template-Fact"&gt;&lt;span title="This claim needs references to reliable sources since February 2007" style="white-space: nowrap;"&gt;[&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed"&gt;citation needed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; Nearly all of the Jewish &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scripture" title="Scripture"&gt;scriptures&lt;/a&gt; were written in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language" title="Hebrew language"&gt;Hebrew&lt;/a&gt;, making it likely that a Jew who knew the Jewish scriptures also knew at least some Hebrew (especially as Hebrew and Aramaic are fairly &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognate" title="Cognate"&gt;cognate&lt;/a&gt;). There were also the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targums" class="mw-redirect" title="Targums"&gt;Targums&lt;/a&gt;, Aramaic translations of the Hebrew Bible, in Galilee or Judea in the days of Jesus during the Early Roman Period. The use of Targums in the synagogue did not become customary until the 3rd century, after the use of spoken Hebrew declined in the aftermath of the catastrophic &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kochba_Revolt" class="mw-redirect" title="Bar Kochba Revolt"&gt;Bar Kochba Revolt&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;From the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_century_BC" title="2nd century BC"&gt;2nd century BC&lt;/a&gt;, Palestine had been heavily influenced by the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenistic_civilization" title="Hellenistic civilization"&gt;Hellenistic civilization&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koine_Greek" title="Koine Greek"&gt;Koine Greek&lt;/a&gt; rapidly became the international language of the eastern &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean" class="mw-redirect" title="Mediterranean"&gt;Mediterranean&lt;/a&gt;, and so became the language of travelling &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant" title="Merchant"&gt;merchants&lt;/a&gt;. It is thus likely that Jesus knew a few Greek terms. The &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Testament" title="New Testament"&gt;New Testament&lt;/a&gt; itself, in the form we have it today, is mostly written in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koine_Greek" title="Koine Greek"&gt;Koine Greek&lt;/a&gt;, including many quotations from the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_Bible" title="Hebrew Bible"&gt;Hebrew Bible&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;When Jesus is described by the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Testament" title="New Testament"&gt;New Testament&lt;/a&gt; as quoting from the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_Bible" title="Hebrew Bible"&gt;Hebrew Bible&lt;/a&gt;, the quotations that are given most closely correlate with the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint" title="Septuagint"&gt;Septuagint&lt;/a&gt;. Most scholars suggest that the New Testament authors most likely used an edition of the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint" title="Septuagint"&gt;Septuagint&lt;/a&gt;, rather than translate a Hebrew (or Aramaic) source. However, among the Dead Sea Scrolls, in addition to various Hebrew versions of the Bible that resemble the much later &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoretic_text" class="mw-redirect" title="Masoretic text"&gt;Masoretic text&lt;/a&gt;, there are also Hebrew versions that more closely resemble the Greek Septuagint version (in similar fashion to the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritan_Pentateuch" title="Samaritan Pentateuch"&gt;Samaritan Pentateuch&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Because of the influence of Greek in the east of the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean" class="mw-redirect" title="Mediterranean"&gt;Mediterranean&lt;/a&gt;, even the officials of the Roman Empire did not really use &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin" title="Latin"&gt;Latin&lt;/a&gt; in the region, and so only a few words of Latin would have been known to most Jews, mostly confined to various symbols of Roman rule (such as the 'denarius' coin).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Aramaic_phrases_in_the_Greek_New_Testament" id="Aramaic_phrases_in_the_Greek_New_Testament"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h2&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Aramaic phrases in the Greek New Testament&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;p&gt;The &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_New_Testament" class="mw-redirect" title="Greek New Testament"&gt;Greek New Testament&lt;/a&gt; transliterates a few words and phrases, some Hebrew, some Aramaic and some either. These are mainly words attributed to Jesus, and perhaps had a special significance because of this. Words necessarily deriving from Hebrew (like &lt;i&gt;Hosha` nā!&lt;/i&gt; "Please, save!") are hypothesized to be loan words from Hebrew for use in Aramaic.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;A small minority believe that most or all of the New Testament was originally written in Aramaic. This position, called &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_primacy" title="Aramaic primacy"&gt;Aramaic primacy&lt;/a&gt;, is popular, but most scholars believe that the New Testament, as we have it today, was composed in the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language" title="Greek language"&gt;Greek language&lt;/a&gt;. However, it is not disputed that there does exist a Hebrew/Aramaic layer beneath the Greek text.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Talitha_qoum_.28.CE.A4.CE.B1.CE.BB.CE.B9.CE.B8.CE.B1_.CE.BA.CE.BF.CF.85.CE.BC.29" id="Talitha_qoum_.28.CE.A4.CE.B1.CE.BB.CE.B9.CE.B8.CE.B1_.CE.BA.CE.BF.CF.85.CE.BC.29"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Talitha qoum (Ταλιθα κουμ)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark" title="Gospel of Mark"&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt; 5:41&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;And taking the hand of the child, he said to her, "Talitha koum", which is translated, "Little girl, I say to you, get up".&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;This verse gives an Aramaic phrase, attributed to Jesus in the resurrection of a girl, with a &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliteration" title="Transliteration"&gt;transliteration&lt;/a&gt; into Greek, as ταλιθα κουμ.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;A couple of Greek manuscripts (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Sinaiticus" title="Codex Sinaiticus"&gt;Codex Sinaiticus&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Vaticanus" title="Codex Vaticanus"&gt;Codex Vaticanus&lt;/a&gt;) of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark" title="Gospel of Mark"&gt;Mark's Gospel&lt;/a&gt; have this text, but others (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Alexandrinus" title="Codex Alexandrinus"&gt;Codex Alexandrinus&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_Text" class="mw-redirect" title="Majority Text"&gt;Majority Text&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulgate" title="Vulgate"&gt;Vulgate&lt;/a&gt;) write κουμι (&lt;i&gt;koumi&lt;/i&gt;) instead. The latter became the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textus_Receptus" title="Textus Receptus"&gt;Textus Receptus&lt;/a&gt;, and is the version that appears in the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorised_Version" class="mw-redirect" title="Authorised Version"&gt;Authorised Version&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The Aramaic is &lt;i&gt;ţlīthā qūm&lt;/i&gt;. The word &lt;i&gt;ţlīthā&lt;/i&gt; is the feminine form of the word &lt;i&gt;ţlē&lt;/i&gt;, meaning "young". &lt;i&gt;Qūm&lt;/i&gt; is the Aramaic verb 'to rise, stand, get up'. In the feminine singular imperative, it was originally 'qūmī'. However, there is evidence that in speech the final -&lt;i&gt;ī&lt;/i&gt; was dropped so that the imperative did not distinguish between &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masculine_gender" class="mw-redirect" title="Masculine gender"&gt;masculine&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminine_gender" class="mw-redirect" title="Feminine gender"&gt;feminine genders&lt;/a&gt;. The older manuscripts, therefore, used a Greek spelling that reflected pronunciation, whereas the addition of an 'ι' was perhaps due to a bookish copyist.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;In Aramaic, it could be טליתא קומי or טלתא קומי.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Ephphatha_.28.CE.95.CF.86.CF.86.CE.B1.CE.B8.CE.B1.29" id="Ephphatha_.28.CE.95.CF.86.CF.86.CE.B1.CE.B8.CE.B1.29"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Ephphatha (Εφφαθα)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark" title="Gospel of Mark"&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt; 7:34&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;And looking up to heaven, he sighed and said to him, "Ephphatha", which is 'be opened'.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;Once again, the Aramaic word is given with an attempted transliteration, only this time the word to be transliterated is more complicated. In Greek, the Aramaic is written εφφαθα. This is from the Aramaic 'ethpthaħ', the passive imperative of the verb 'pthaħ', 'to open'. The guttural 'ħ' was generally softened in Galilean Aramaic,&lt;sup id="_ref-1" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_of_Jesus#_note-1" title=""&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;In Aramaic, it could be אתפתח.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Abba_.28.CE.91.CE.B2.CE.B2.CE.B1.29" id="Abba_.28.CE.91.CE.B2.CE.B2.CE.B1.29"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Abba (Αββα)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark" title="Gospel of Mark"&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt; 14:36&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abba_%28father%29" class="mw-redirect" title="Abba (father)"&gt;Abba&lt;/a&gt;, an Aramaic word (written Αββα in Greek, and 'abbā in Aramaic), is immediately followed by the Greek equivalent (Πατηρ) with no explicit mention of it being a translation. The phrase &lt;i&gt;Abba, Father&lt;/i&gt; is repeated in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistle_to_the_Romans" title="Epistle to the Romans"&gt;Romans&lt;/a&gt; 8:15 and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistle_to_the_Galatians" title="Epistle to the Galatians"&gt;Galatians&lt;/a&gt; 4:6.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;In Aramaic, it could be אבא.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Note, the name &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barabbas" title="Barabbas"&gt;Barabbas&lt;/a&gt; is a Hellenization of the Aramaic &lt;i&gt;Bar Abba&lt;/i&gt; (בר אבא), literally, "Son of the Father", but here &lt;i&gt;Abba&lt;/i&gt; is probably the diminutive form of the Hebrew name &lt;i&gt;Abraham&lt;/i&gt;, like &lt;i&gt;Akiba&lt;/i&gt; is of &lt;i&gt;Yaakob&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Raca_.28.CE.A1.CE.B1.CE.BA.CE.B1.29" id="Raca_.28.CE.A1.CE.B1.CE.BA.CE.B1.29"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Raca (Ρακα)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Matthew" title="Gospel of Matthew"&gt;Matthew&lt;/a&gt; 5:22&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;Raca, or Raka, in the Aramaic of the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud" title="Talmud"&gt;Talmud&lt;/a&gt; means empty one, fool, empty head.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;In Aramaic, it could be ריקא or ריקה.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Note: The phrase "without a cause" is missing from Matthew 5:22 in the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Sinaiticus" title="Codex Sinaiticus"&gt;Codex Sinaiticus&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Vaticanus" title="Codex Vaticanus"&gt;Codex Vaticanus&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Mammon_.28.CE.9C.CE.B1.CE.BC.CF.89.CE.BD.CE.B1.CF.82.29" id="Mammon_.28.CE.9C.CE.B1.CE.BC.CF.89.CE.BD.CE.B1.CF.82.29"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Mammon (Μαμωνας)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt; &lt;div class="noprint relarticle mainarticle"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Main article: &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammon" title="Mammon"&gt;Mammon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Matthew" title="Gospel of Matthew"&gt;Gospel of Matthew&lt;/a&gt; 6:24&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;No one can serve two masters: for either they will hate the one, and love the other; or else they will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammon" title="Mammon"&gt;mammon&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Luke" title="Gospel of Luke"&gt;Luke&lt;/a&gt; 16:9-13&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations. He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much. If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own? No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_Clement" class="mw-redirect" title="2 Clement"&gt;2 Clement&lt;/a&gt; 6&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;Now the Lord declares, "No servant can serve two masters." If we desire, then, to serve both God and mammon, it will be unprofitable for us. "For what will it profit if a man gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" This world and the next are two enemies. The one urges to adultery and corruption, avarice and deceit; the other bids farewell to these things. We cannot, therefore, be the friends of both; and it behoves us, by renouncing the one, to make sure of the other. Let us reckon that it is better to hate the things present, since they are trifling, and transient, and corruptible; and to love those [which are to come,] as being good and incorruptible. For if we do the will of Christ, we shall find rest; otherwise, nothing shall deliver us from eternal punishment, if we disobey His commandments.&lt;/i&gt; (Roberts-Donaldson)&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;In Aramaic, it could be ממון.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;In the New Testament the word &lt;span lang="grc" lang="grc"&gt;Μαμωνᾶς&lt;/span&gt; — Mamōnâs — is declined like a Greek word, whereas many of the other Aramaic words are treated as indeclinable foreign words.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Rabboni_.28.CE.A1.CE.B1.CE.B2.CE.B2.CE.BF.CF.85.CE.BD.CE.B5.CE.B9.29" id="Rabboni_.28.CE.A1.CE.B1.CE.B2.CE.B2.CE.BF.CF.85.CE.BD.CE.B5.CE.B9.29"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Rabboni (Ραββουνει)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://php.ug.cs.usyd.edu.au/%7Ejnot4610/bibref.php?book=%20John&amp;amp;verse=20:16&amp;amp;src=%21" class="external text" title="http://php.ug.cs.usyd.edu.au/~jnot4610/bibref.php?book=%20John&amp;amp;verse=20:16&amp;amp;src=!" rel="nofollow"&gt;John 20:16&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.&lt;/i&gt; (KJV)&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;Also in Mark 10:51. Hebrew form &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbi" title="Rabbi"&gt;rabbi&lt;/a&gt; used as title of Jesus in Matthew 26:25,49; Mark 9:5, 11:21, 14:45; John 1:49, 4:31, 6:25, 9:2, 11:8.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;In Aramaic, it could be רבוני.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Maranatha_.28.CE.BC.CE.B1.CF.81.CE.B1.CE.BD.CE.B1_.CE.B8.CE.B1.29" id="Maranatha_.28.CE.BC.CE.B1.CF.81.CE.B1.CE.BD.CE.B1_.CE.B8.CE.B1.29"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Maranatha (μαρανα θα)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt; &lt;div class="noprint relarticle mainarticle"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Main article: &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maranatha" title="Maranatha"&gt;Maranatha&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didache" title="Didache"&gt;Didache&lt;/a&gt; 10 (Prayer after Communion)&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;.. Let grace come, and let this world pass away. &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosanna" title="Hosanna"&gt;Hosanna&lt;/a&gt; to the God (Son) of David! If any one is holy, let him come; if any one is not so, let him repent. Maranatha. Amen.&lt;/i&gt; (Roberts-Donaldson)&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Corinthians" class="mw-redirect" title="1 Corinthians"&gt;1 Corinthians&lt;/a&gt; 16:22&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maranatha" title="Maranatha"&gt;Maranatha&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;In Aramaic (מרנא תא) it means &lt;i&gt;Lord, come!&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;Our Lord, come!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Eli_Eli_lema_sabachthani_.28.CE.97.CE.BB.CE.B5.CE.B9_.CE.97.CE.BB.CE.B5.CE.B9_.CE.BB.CE.B5.CE.BC.CE.B1_.CF.83.CE.B1.CE.B2.CE.B1.CF.87.CE.B8.CE.B1.CE.BD.CE.B5.CE.B9.29" id="Eli_Eli_lema_sabachthani_.28.CE.97.CE.BB.CE.B5.CE.B9_.CE.97.CE.BB.CE.B5.CE.B9_.CE.BB.CE.B5.CE.BC.CE.B1_.CF.83.CE.B1.CE.B2.CE.B1.CF.87.CE.B8.CE.B1.CE.BD.CE.B5.CE.B9.29"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Eli Eli lema sabachthani (Ηλει Ηλει λεμα σαβαχθανει)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Matthew" title="Gospel of Matthew"&gt;Matthew&lt;/a&gt; 27:46&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;Around the ninth hour, Jesus shouted in a loud voice, saying "Eli Eli lema sabachthani?" which is, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark" title="Gospel of Mark"&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt; 15:34&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;And at the ninth hour, Jesus shouted in a loud voice, "Eloi Eloi lema sabachthani?" which is translated, "My God, my God, for what have you forsaken me?"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;This phrase, shouted by Jesus from the cross, is given to us in these two versions. The Matthean version of the phrase is transliterated in Greek as ηλει ηλει λεμα σαβαχθανει. The Markan version is similar, but begins ελωι ελωι (elōi rather than ēlei).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The lines seems to be quoting the first line of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalm" class="mw-redirect" title="Psalm"&gt;Psalm&lt;/a&gt; 22. However, he is not quoting the canonical Hebrew version (êlî êlî lâmâ `&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt;zabtânî), but is using an Aramaic translation of it (see &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targum" title="Targum"&gt;targum&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;In the following verse, in both accounts, some who hear Jesus' cry imagine that he is calling for help from &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah" title="Elijah"&gt;Elijah&lt;/a&gt; (Eliyyâ). This is perhaps to underline the incomprehension of the bystanders about what is happening. Matthew's use of ηλι may indicate a more 'official' rendition of the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalm" class="mw-redirect" title="Psalm"&gt;psalm&lt;/a&gt; verse, more in line with the Hebrew. Mark's version probably represents the Aramaic colloquial better. The Aramaic behind Matthew is êlî êlî lmâ švaqtanî. Whereas Mark has elohî elohî.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;A few ancient Greek manuscripts show signs of trying to normalise this text. For instance, the peculiar &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Bezae" title="Codex Bezae"&gt;Codex Bezae&lt;/a&gt; renders both versions with ηλι ηλι λαμα ζαφθανι (ēli ēli lama zaphthani).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;As the phrase is clearly translated into Greek in both instances there can be little doubt as to its meaning. However, a minority have speculated on different meanings. Among them is &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lamsa" title="George Lamsa"&gt;George Lamsa&lt;/a&gt;, whose research is generally considered &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience" title="Pseudoscience"&gt;pseudoscience&lt;/a&gt; by other scholars.&lt;sup id="_ref-2" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_of_Jesus#_note-2" title=""&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sup id="_ref-3" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_of_Jesus#_note-3" title=""&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The Aramaic word švaqtanî is based on the verb švaq, 'to allow, to permit, to forgive, and to forsake', with the perfect tense ending -t (2nd person singular: 'you'), and the object suffix -anî (1st person singular: 'me').&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;This phrase is treated in more depth at &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_sayings_of_Jesus" class="mw-redirect" title="Last sayings of Jesus"&gt;Last sayings of Jesus&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;In Aramaic, it could be אלהי אלהי למא שבקתני.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Jot_and_tittle_.28.E1.BC.B0.E1.BF.B6.CF.84.CE.B1_.E1.BC.93.CE.BD_.E1.BC.A2_.CE.BC.CE.AF.CE.B1_.CE.BA.CE.B5.CF.81.CE.B1.CE.AF.CE.B1.29" id="Jot_and_tittle_.28.E1.BC.B0.E1.BF.B6.CF.84.CE.B1_.E1.BC.93.CE.BD_.E1.BC.A2_.CE.BC.CE.AF.CE.B1_.CE.BA.CE.B5.CF.81.CE.B1.CE.AF.CE.B1.29"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Jot and tittle (&lt;span lang="grc" lang="grc"&gt;ἰῶτα ἓν ἢ μία κεραία&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Matthew" title="Gospel of Matthew"&gt;Matthew&lt;/a&gt; 5:18&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the Law (that is, the Torah) till all is fulfilled.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;The quotation uses them as an example of extremely minor details. In the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language" title="Greek language"&gt;Greek&lt;/a&gt; original translated as &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language" title="English language"&gt;English&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tittle" title="Tittle"&gt;jot and tittle&lt;/a&gt; is found &lt;i&gt;iota&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;keraia&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iota" title="Iota"&gt;Iota&lt;/a&gt; is the smallest letter of the Greek alphabet (ι), but since only &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majuscule" class="mw-redirect" title="Majuscule"&gt;capitals&lt;/a&gt; were used at the time the Greek New Testament was written (Ι), it probably represents the Aramaic &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yodh" title="Yodh"&gt;yodh&lt;/a&gt; (י) which is the smallest letter of the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_alphabet" title="Aramaic alphabet"&gt;Aramaic alphabet&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;i&gt;Keraia&lt;/i&gt; is a hook or &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serif" title="Serif"&gt;serif&lt;/a&gt;, possibly accents in Greek but more likely hooks on Aramaic letters, (ב) versus (כ), or additional marks such as crowns (as &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulgate" title="Vulgate"&gt;Vulgate&lt;/a&gt; apex) found in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bible" class="mw-redirect" title="Jewish Bible"&gt;Jewish Bibles&lt;/a&gt;. The standard reference for NT Greek is A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and other Early Christian Literature, Bauer, Gingrich, Danker, et al. (commonly known as the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauer_lexicon" title="Bauer lexicon"&gt;Bauer lexicon&lt;/a&gt;. Liddell and Scott Greek-English Lexicon for &lt;i&gt;keraia&lt;/i&gt; is here: &lt;a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0057%3Aentry%3D%2356669" class="external autonumber" title="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0057%3Aentry%3D%2356669" rel="nofollow"&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;. See also the article on the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antithesis_of_the_Law" class="mw-redirect" title="Antithesis of the Law"&gt;antithesis of the Law&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Korbanas_.28.CE.BA.CE.BF.CF.81.CE.B2.CE.B1.CE.BD.CE.B1.CF.82.29" id="Korbanas_.28.CE.BA.CE.BF.CF.81.CE.B2.CE.B1.CE.BD.CE.B1.CF.82.29"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Korbanas (κορβανας)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Matthew" title="Gospel of Matthew"&gt;Matthew&lt;/a&gt; 27:6&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;But the chief priests, taking the pieces of silver, said, ‘It is not lawful to put them into the &lt;b&gt;treasury&lt;/b&gt;, since they are blood money.’&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;In Aramaic (קרבנא) it refers to the treasury in the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_in_Jerusalem" title="Temple in Jerusalem"&gt;Temple in Jerusalem&lt;/a&gt;, derived from the Hebrew &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corban" class="mw-redirect" title="Corban"&gt;Corban&lt;/a&gt; (קרבן), found in Mark 7:11 and the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint" title="Septuagint"&gt;Septuagint&lt;/a&gt; (in Greek transliteration), meaning &lt;i&gt;religious gift&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The Greek &lt;span lang="grc" lang="grc"&gt;κορβανᾶς&lt;/span&gt; is declined as a Greek noun.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Sikera_.28.CF.83.CE.B9.CE.BA.CE.B5.CF.81.CE.B1.29" id="Sikera_.28.CF.83.CE.B9.CE.BA.CE.B5.CF.81.CE.B1.29"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Sikera (σικερα)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Luke" title="Gospel of Luke"&gt;Luke&lt;/a&gt; 1:15&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He must never drink wine or &lt;b&gt;strong drink&lt;/b&gt;; even before his birth he will be filled with the Holy Spirit.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;In Aramaic (שכרא) it means &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer" title="Beer"&gt;barley beer&lt;/a&gt;, from the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_language" title="Akkadian language"&gt;Akkadian&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;shikaru&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="Hosanna_.28.E1.BD.A1.CF.83.CE.B1.CE.BD.CE.BD.CE.AC.29" id="Hosanna_.28.E1.BD.A1.CF.83.CE.B1.CE.BD.CE.BD.CE.AC.29"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3&gt;&lt;span class="editsection"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;Hosanna (&lt;span lang="grc" lang="grc"&gt;ὡσαννά&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark" title="Gospel of Mark"&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt; 11:9&lt;/p&gt; &lt;dl&gt;&lt;dd&gt;&lt;i&gt;Then those who went ahead and those who followed were shouting, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosanna" title="Hosanna"&gt;Hosanna&lt;/a&gt;! Blessed is the one who comes in the name of the Lord!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt; &lt;p&gt;According to the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauer_lexicon" title="Bauer lexicon"&gt;Bauer lexicon&lt;/a&gt;, see references at end, this word is derived from Aramaic (הושע נא) from Hebrew (הושיעה נא) (&lt;a href="http://php.ug.cs.usyd.edu.au/%7Ejnot4610/bibref.php?book=%20Psalm&amp;amp;verse=118:25&amp;amp;src=HE" class="external text" title="http://php.ug.cs.usyd.edu.au/~jnot4610/bibref.php?book=%20Psalm&amp;amp;verse=118:25&amp;amp;src=HE" rel="nofollow"&gt;Psalm 118:25&lt;/a&gt;, הוֹשִׁיעָה נָּא, meaning "help" or "save, I pray", "an appeal that became a liturgical formula; as part of the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallel" title="Hallel"&gt;Hallel&lt;/a&gt; ... familiar to everyone in Israel."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;span class="mw-headline"&gt;References&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;p&gt;All Aramaic words are from &lt;i&gt;A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature&lt;/i&gt;, Bauer-Arndt-Gingrinch-Danker (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/9780226039336" class="internal"&gt;ISBN 978-0226039336&lt;/a&gt;). Though primarily a &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koine_Greek" title="Koine Greek"&gt;Koine Greek&lt;/a&gt; Lexicon (it is the standard reference for NT Greek), it includes Aramaic words in the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_alphabet" title="Aramaic alphabet"&gt;Aramaic "square-script" alphabet&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div class="references-small"&gt; &lt;ol class="references"&gt;&lt;li id="_note-0"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_of_Jesus#_ref-0" title=""&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Casey, P.M., 2002. An Aramaic Approach to Q: Sources for the Gospels of Matthew and Luke. Cambridge : Cambridge University Press.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li id="_note-1"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_of_Jesus#_ref-1" title=""&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Kutscher, E.Y.. (1976). Studies in Galilean Aramaic.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li id="_note-2"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_of_Jesus#_ref-2" title=""&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.jstor.org/view/08852758/ap050087/05a00110/0?frame=noframe&amp;amp;userID=a301b4a3@ox.ac.uk/01cce4405e00501b90bbf&amp;amp;dpi=3&amp;amp;config=jstor" class="external text" title="http://www.jstor.org/view/08852758/ap050087/05a00110/0?frame=noframe&amp;amp;userID=a301b4a3@ox.ac.uk/01cce4405e00501b90bbf&amp;amp;dpi=3&amp;amp;config=jstor" rel="nofollow"&gt;Review of Lamsa's translation by Herbert G May, Journal of Bible and Religion, Vol. 26, No. 4, Oct., 1958 (JSTOR)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li id="_note-3"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_of_Jesus#_ref-3" title=""&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.jstor.org/view/00424935/ap050030/05a00080/0" class="external text" title="http://www.jstor.org/view/00424935/ap050030/05a00080/0" rel="nofollow"&gt;Review of Lamsa's translation by PAH de Boer, Vetus Testamentum, Vol. 8, Fasc. 2, Apr., 1958 (JSTOR)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li id="_note-4"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_of_Jesus#_ref-4" title=""&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Bauer's Lexicon: Gal 1:18; 2:9,11,14; 1Cor 1:12; 3:22; 9:5; 15:5; also 1Clement 47:3&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li id="_note-5"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_of_Jesus#_ref-5" title=""&gt;^&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://cal1.cn.huc.edu/" class="external text" title="http://cal1.cn.huc.edu" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Comprehensive Aramaic Lexicon&lt;/a&gt; - Entry for "ṭbyʾ"&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-1213432831501315091?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/1213432831501315091/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=1213432831501315091' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/1213432831501315091'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/1213432831501315091'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/aramaic-of-jesus.html' title='Aramaic of Jesus'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-6154616594040032528</id><published>2008-03-15T10:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-15T10:52:08.090-07:00</updated><title type='text'>jesus on power</title><content type='html'>Nathanael Baker &lt;a href="http://nathanaelbaker.blogspot.com/"&gt;has&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title entry-title"&gt; &lt;a href="http://nathanaelbaker.blogspot.com/2008/03/my-kingdom-is-not-of-this-world.html"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title entry-title"&gt;&lt;a href="http://nathanaelbaker.blogspot.com/2008/03/my-kingdom-is-not-of-this-world.html"&gt;My Kingdom is not of this World&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/h3&gt;   WThis is a post by N.T Wright from Newsweek at the &lt;a href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/nicholas_t_wright/2008/03/he_would_challenge_power_not_r.html"&gt;Washington Post&lt;/a&gt;. In what is election year both in New Zealand and America, it is good to remember that Jesus offers a counter-cultural view of power. Read and see.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;He Would Challenge Power, Not Run for It&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;This is of course an impossible question, like 'If the sun were to rise in the west, would it be green or blue?' In other words, by agreeing to the terms of the question you make it impossible to give an answer based on anything other than highly distorted speculation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus didn't run for anything. He acted as if he were a different kind of ruler altogether, with a 'kingdom' that didn't originate from the present world (otherwise, he said, his servants would fight to rescue him) but instead was meant FOR this present world, to transform and heal it. The present way we do politics and government is, alas, part of the problem, and he would have challenged it (its huge cost, its pretense of participation which is shamelessly manipulated by the media, its cult of personality, its ignoring, all too often, of the actual needs of the poor, etc. etc.) just as he challenged the power structures of his day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The real question is, what sort of a cross would today's system be intent on using to kill him?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-6154616594040032528?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/6154616594040032528/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=6154616594040032528' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6154616594040032528'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6154616594040032528'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/jesus-on-power.html' title='jesus on power'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-6843037315122980580</id><published>2008-03-15T10:45:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-15T10:48:41.713-07:00</updated><title type='text'>lion in the water</title><content type='html'>Christopher's poem:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a name="9057437189914666374"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;h3 class="post-title entry-title"&gt; &lt;a href="http://dancewithgod.blogspot.com/2008/02/lion-in-water.html"&gt;lion in the water&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/h3&gt;   &lt;p&gt;lion in the water&lt;br /&gt;          fear and be weary&lt;br /&gt;          watch and admire&lt;br /&gt;funnel clouds in the sky&lt;br /&gt;          fear and be weary&lt;br /&gt;          watch and hide&lt;br /&gt;lion in the water&lt;br /&gt;          strong and playful&lt;br /&gt;          innocent and loved&lt;br /&gt;coming home&lt;br /&gt;          to his pride&lt;br /&gt;          gathered up in love&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;(&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Aslan is on the move...&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://nathanaelbaker.blogspot.com/2007/09/aslan-is-on-move.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;" src="http://entrepreneur.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/aslan.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-6843037315122980580?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/6843037315122980580/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=6843037315122980580' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6843037315122980580'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6843037315122980580'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/lion-in-water.html' title='lion in the water'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-7501869863239030584</id><published>2008-03-15T10:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-15T10:41:41.235-07:00</updated><title type='text'>sacred harp, or shape note singing</title><content type='html'>Short Takes &lt;a href="http://nessmuk.com/blog2/?p=24"&gt;has&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;a href="http://nessmuk.com/blog2/?p=24" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: The Sacred Harp"&gt;The Sacred Harp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;           &lt;p&gt;&lt;object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://nessmuk.com/blog2/wp-content/plugins/audio-player/player.swf" id="audioplayer1" height="24" width="290"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://nessmuk.com/blog2/wp-content/plugins/audio-player/player.swf"&gt;&lt;param name="FlashVars" value="playerID=1&amp;amp;bg=0xf8f8f8&amp;amp;leftbg=0xeeeeee&amp;amp;lefticon=0x666666&amp;amp;rightbg=0xcccccc&amp;amp;rightbghover=0x999999&amp;amp;righticon=0x666666&amp;amp;righticonhover=0xffffff&amp;amp;text=0x666666&amp;amp;slider=0x666666&amp;amp;track=0xFFFFFF&amp;amp;border=0x666666&amp;amp;loader=0%26%23215%3B009933&amp;amp;soundFile=http%3A%2F%2Fnessmuk.com%2Fblog2%2Faudio%2FsacredHarp-stBarts-4.mp3"&gt;&lt;param name="quality" value="high"&gt;&lt;param name="menu" value="false"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christiana and I went down to St. Bart’s church yesterday (Sunday) afternoon to hear Sacred Harp or shape singing. I had seen a flier a few months ago about an all day sing that was being held at the Plymouth Church in Brooklyn so I stopped off after my guitar lesson to hear what it was about. There were at least 200 singers and the sound and energy was incredible. As far as I can tell the dynamics of shape singing are, loud, louder and very loud but the sound is happy, even when the lyrics are gloomy, and very American. Above is a brief audio clip that I recorded with my camera. The recording isn’t very good but it gives you an idea. Below are a couple of paragraphs I copied from &lt;a href="http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/%7Emudws/harp.html"&gt;www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/~mudws/harp.html&lt;/a&gt; about shape singing.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;“Sacred Harp singing is a non-denominational community musical event emphasizing participation, not performance. Singers sit facing inward in a hollow square. Each individual is invited to take a turn “leading,” i.e. standing in the center, selecting a song, and beating time with the hand. The singing is not accompanied by harps or any other instrument. The group sings from &lt;cite&gt;The Sacred Harp&lt;/cite&gt;, an oblong songbook first published in  1844  by &lt;a href="http://www.oberlin.net/%7Ecwells/white.htm"&gt;B.F. White&lt;/a&gt; and E. J. King.  The music is printed in &lt;a href="http://web.mit.edu/user/i/j/ijs/www/sn/sn-hist.html"&gt; “patent  notes,”&lt;/a&gt; wherein the shape of  the note head indicates the syllables &lt;strong&gt;FA&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;img src="http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/%7Emudws/pix/fa2.gif" alt="(right triangle)" /&gt;,  &lt;strong&gt;SOL&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;img src="http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/%7Emudws/pix/sol2.gif" alt="(oval)" /&gt;,  &lt;strong&gt;LA&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;img src="http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/%7Emudws/pix/la2.gif" alt="(rectangle)" /&gt;,  and &lt;strong&gt;MI&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;img src="http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/%7Emudws/pix/mi2.gif" alt="(diamond)" /&gt;. The repertory includes psalm tunes, fuging tunes, odes and anthems by the first American composers (1770-1810), and also settings of folk songs and revival hymns (1810-1860). The current &lt;a href="http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/%7Emudws/edition.html"&gt;1991 Edition&lt;/a&gt; contains many songs in these styles by living composers.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;This style of singing stems from &lt;a href="http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/%7Emudws/schools.html"&gt;singing  schools&lt;/a&gt; in the colonial period.  Preserved in the rural South,  Sacred Harp singing (also called &lt;em&gt;fasola&lt;/em&gt; singing or  &lt;em&gt;shape-note&lt;/em&gt;  singing) is making a major resurgence in cities and campuses  throughout North America.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-7501869863239030584?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/7501869863239030584/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=7501869863239030584' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7501869863239030584'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7501869863239030584'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/sacred-harp-or-shape-note-singing.html' title='sacred harp, or shape note singing'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-8395484014332481188</id><published>2008-03-15T09:53:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-16T04:53:26.617-07:00</updated><title type='text'>voodoo on dreamland</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.unknowncountry.com/dreamland/?id=384"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;" src="http://www.unknowncountry.com/img/dreamland/masthead/20080315-1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.unknowncountry.com/img/titles/thisweek.gif" height="43" width="158" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;           &lt;p&gt;             &lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);font-family:verdana,arial,helvetica;font-size:78%;"  &gt;             Saturday March 15th, 2008             &lt;/span&gt;              &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;             &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0);font-family:times;font-size:100%;"  &gt;             &lt;a href="http://www.unknowncountry.com/dreamland/?id=384"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Voodou!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;          &lt;/span&gt;              &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;             &lt;span style=";font-family:verdana,arial,helvetica;font-size:85%;"  &gt;             This week Whitley Strieber takes us on a fascinating adventure into the unknown realm of Vodou. We are guided by Kenaz Filan, an initiate of the Societe la Belle Venus and the author of the Haitian Vodou Handbook, who explains Vodou ritual and tells us about his experiences with the Vodou lwa, or spirits honored in Haitain practice. He also discusses the controversial relationship between Catholicism and Vodou, and the current state of Vodou practice in Haiti and elsewhere. Then Linda Howe updates us on another fascinating reality: water on Mars.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana,arial,helvetica;font-size:85%;"  &gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just noting.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also see: &lt;a href="http://cheryl.yachana.org/2008/03/haitian-art.html"&gt;Haitian art&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://www.leagueofreluctantadults.com/2008/02/zombie-quiz-zombie-quiz.html"&gt;Zombie Quiz&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://cabaretkids.blogspot.com/2008/02/alpha-or-omega.html"&gt;Ontological catfights between bawdy Lwas and fat Baptists&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://mara-gamiel.blogspot.com/2008/02/brief-history-of-voodoo.html"&gt;Brief History of Voodoo&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://scandalouswoman.blogspot.com/2008/02/marie-laveau-voodoo-queen-of-new.html"&gt;Brief History of Marie Laveau&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;Got a buddy that runs with a Shiva sect that's been having some unhappy run-ins with Voodouns in the last few years... But Papa Legba has always been kind to me, and I still say Jah Respeck! to the old man, me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legba"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 184px; height: 139px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/VeveLegba.svg/180px-VeveLegba.svg.png" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-8395484014332481188?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/8395484014332481188/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=8395484014332481188' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8395484014332481188'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8395484014332481188'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/voodoo-on-dreamland.html' title='voodoo on dreamland'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-35232345468047583</id><published>2008-03-14T15:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-14T15:23:48.015-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Exterminatrix of Heresies</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.rc.net/oakland/cpps/madonnapb2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;" src="http://www.rc.net/oakland/cpps/madonnapb2.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Damn!  Via &lt;a href="http://beofish.blogspot.com/2008/03/coolest-mary-ever.html"&gt;I Have to Sit down&lt;/a&gt; (via &lt;a href="http://www.newadvent.org/"&gt;New Advent&lt;/a&gt;) &amp;amp; via &lt;a href="http://gasparian.stblogs.org/archives/cpps_community_sites_and_events/"&gt;St. Gaspar's&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's the "&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;don't f*^@k up or Mary's gonna beat the hell out of you&lt;/span&gt; Mary.  That's the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I'm about to beat the holy $h!t out of you, with your frikkin questions, so papa don't come home and beat the $h!t out of me &lt;/span&gt;Mary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's such a wrathful side we don't hardly &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ever&lt;/span&gt; see depicted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c5/Kali_Devi.jpg/275px-Kali_Devi.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 273px; height: 358px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c5/Kali_Devi.jpg/275px-Kali_Devi.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-35232345468047583?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/35232345468047583/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=35232345468047583' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/35232345468047583'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/35232345468047583'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/exterminatrix-of-heresies.html' title='Exterminatrix of Heresies'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-3163271079010691128</id><published>2008-03-14T14:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-14T15:02:46.670-07:00</updated><title type='text'>perpetual virginity</title><content type='html'>Brothers of Jesus, yes; then how the perpetual virginity (post-Jesus married life) of Mary?  No sex with Joseph to get these boys conceived and born?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://singinginthereign.blogspot.com/2008/03/biblical-basis-for-marys-perpetual.html"&gt;Singing in the Reign explains&lt;/a&gt;.  In part:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However implausible it may sound to a sex-saturated Western culture that a man would ever do such a thing, the fact of the matter is that the Old Testament appears to assume it as a real possibility. Indeed, the fact that an &lt;em&gt;entire chapter&lt;/em&gt; of the Bible is devoted to it appears to suggest that vows of sexual abstinence on the part of women must have been a visible enough part of the culture that a law was necessary to deal with the situation! (This should come as no surprise to students of antiquity; consecrated virgins were part of the religious landscape of the ancient world). Should there be any doubt about this, I would suggest in passing that the reader call to mind the controversy that faced Pauline churches about young widows renegging on their vows of sexual abstinence (1 Timothy 4) and the otherwise difficult and confusing passage in 1 Corinthians about what a man should do about marrying his "virgin" (1 Cor 7:36-38). If both these texts apply to the situation envisaged in Numbers 30, then Mary's situation is anything but unique in culture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, love to hear your thoughts about this. It's just my take at this point. I'll need to do more research, but I thought I'd offer a little rose to Our Lady.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 355px; height: 227px;" src="http://www.sexualfables.com/images/mary_magdalene_in_the_cave_1876_by_jules_joseph_lefebvre.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oops, wrong &lt;a href="http://www.jesuscreed.org/?p=3527"&gt;Mary&lt;/a&gt;... that was meant to be:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Mary"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;" src="http://biblia.com/mary/jesus-mary-hearts-30.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-3163271079010691128?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/3163271079010691128/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=3163271079010691128' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3163271079010691128'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3163271079010691128'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/perpetual-virginity.html' title='perpetual virginity'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-6519515523744035940</id><published>2008-03-13T10:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-13T10:52:47.458-07:00</updated><title type='text'>truthiness?</title><content type='html'>In information science, people talk about accuracy.  Accuracy is whether or not a quanta of information is factual.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Clearly, there's much in the Bible that isn't accurate.  Or, if you want, there's clearly much in universe that isn't accurate... but either way, if you insist on defining the "truth" of the Bible in terms of accuracy, you're going to have to figure out whether the Bible is "literally true", and you're probably in for a tough time of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Real &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;truth&lt;/span&gt; is much more important than mere accuracy.  Creationism?  Resurrection?  Miracles?  These things are true, but you'll be very hard pressed to find factual evidence -- that's because the way that they are most importantly true is above fact, above accuracy.  They're true in the way that "rainbows are beautiful" and in the way that "love is the most important thing in the world". &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These things are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;truer&lt;/span&gt; than facts.  To argue whether they physically happened in these few dimensions of earthly perception rather misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-&lt;br /&gt;Neale Donald Walsch has a good post on this subject [&lt;a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/conversationswithgod/2008/03/is-the-bible-literally-true.html"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;]: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The Bible also says that, if found to be in an adulterous relationship, both the man and the woman are to be taken to the city gates and also stoned to death. If Monday's allegations are true, that could mean the end for New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer. He'll have to be stoned.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-6519515523744035940?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/6519515523744035940/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=6519515523744035940' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6519515523744035940'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6519515523744035940'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/truthiness.html' title='truthiness?'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2215013759127406411</id><published>2008-03-13T10:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-13T10:40:27.656-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Mallika Chopra and Family</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/choprafamily/parenting/"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I thought this was sweet. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Category:&lt;/b&gt;  &lt;a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/choprafamily/parenting/"&gt;Parenting&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;h2 class="entry-title"&gt;&lt;a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/choprafamily/2008/03/the-jesus-inside-me.html"&gt;The Jesus Inside Me (by Mallika Chopra)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;                 &lt;div class="storycontent"&gt;                      &lt;p&gt;Last night, I took my daughters to watch my father at his book signing at the local Barnes and Noble for his new book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FThird-Jesus-Christ-Cannot-Ignore%2Fdp%2F0307338312%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1203397768%26sr%3D8-1&amp;amp;tag=intentblog-20&amp;amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325"&gt;The Third Jesus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=intentblog-20&amp;amp;l=ur2&amp;amp;o=1" alt="" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important;" border="0" height="1" width="1" /&gt;. . They were so thrilled to see "Nana" talking in front of people, and Tara, my six year old, whispered to me excitedly, "He told all of them that we were his grandchildren!!" Leela, my three year old, was most interested in pretending to color during his short talk, even though she knew so many people were watching her.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;After my father finished speaking, we rushed out to get the kids home to bed. A young man - probably a college student - rushed up to us as we were heading out. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He asked me, "Are you Deepak's daughter?"&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Yes," I replied.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He opened his notebook, looked at his scribbles, and asked, "Did he say that Jesus Christ is actually ourselves?"&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I smiled. The thing is for some reason, many people think my brother and I are authorities on mind/body medicine, ayurveda, consciousness, vedanta, physics, spirituality in general and in all its forms, and now, of course, Jesus Christ. Alas, if only people knew how little we know!!&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I'm not sure what his exact quote was," I replied, "But, in essence, I think that is what he was saying. That we all are part of, have God inside us."&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The guy looked at me in awe.  I seriously thought he was going to cry.  "Dude."  He paused.  "That's just so fucking awesome."&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He looked back at his notes, and I made my escape.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Mommy, I guess he liked Nana's words."  Tara chimed in.  "Isn't that nice?"&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was grateful that my daughter, for the first time, had seen and realized the power of her grandfathers words, and I was proud of her and my father.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess so, I smiled.  And we headed home.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="storycontent"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;                 &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2215013759127406411?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2215013759127406411/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2215013759127406411' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2215013759127406411'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2215013759127406411'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/mallika-chopra-and-family.html' title='Mallika Chopra and Family'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-7548635241258786645</id><published>2008-03-13T10:25:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-13T10:28:17.263-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Faraj Rahho</title><content type='html'>&lt;blockquote&gt;Chaldean Catholic Archbishop Paul Faraj Rahho's body was found Thursday near the town of Mosul, where he and three companions were ambushed by gunmen on February 29.  The archbishop's driver and two security guards were killed during the attack. Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki had ordered security services to make it a priority to find and free the archbishop. [&lt;a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/03/13/iraq.main/index.html"&gt;cnn&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-7548635241258786645?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/7548635241258786645/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=7548635241258786645' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7548635241258786645'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7548635241258786645'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/faraj-rahho.html' title='Faraj Rahho'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2787945882895183839</id><published>2008-03-12T13:30:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-12T14:07:50.090-07:00</updated><title type='text'>mccain catholics hagee</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=12028"&gt;McCain loves: Catholics.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagee#McCain_endorsement"&gt;McCain loves: Hagee.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagee#Accusations_of_Anti-Catholicism"&gt;Hagee loves: not Catholics.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Catholics love: Hagee?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2008/03/john-mccain-rod-parsley-spiritual-guide.html"&gt;McCain loves: Muslims?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/07012/quran.html"&gt;Rod Parsely loves: not Muslims.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain loves: Jews.&lt;br /&gt;Hagee loves: not Jews.&lt;br /&gt;Muslims love: Rod Parsely?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus loves: all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God is: love. (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_is_love"&gt;even the Pope says so&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape#Agape_in_Christianity"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 221px; height: 302px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Virgin_Mary_and_Jesus_%28old_Persian_miniature%29.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Christian writers have generally described &lt;i&gt;agape&lt;/i&gt;, as expounded on by Jesus, as a form of love which is both unconditional and voluntary. &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tertullian" title="Tertullian"&gt;Tertullian&lt;/a&gt;, in his 2nd century defense of Christians remarks how Christian love attracted pagan notice: "What marks us in the eyes of our enemies is our loving kindness. 'Only look,' they say, 'look how they love one another'" (&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologetics" title="Apologetics"&gt;Apology&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; 39). (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape"&gt;w: link&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2787945882895183839?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2787945882895183839/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2787945882895183839' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2787945882895183839'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2787945882895183839'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/mccain-catholics-hagee.html' title='mccain catholics hagee'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2005476351012125401</id><published>2008-03-12T13:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-12T13:29:56.919-07:00</updated><title type='text'>sexual morality</title><content type='html'>What's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;moral &lt;/span&gt;is to educate your children about becoming responsible adults.  Responsible adults should use contraception unless they want to make babies.  The moral thing to do is to encourage contraception -- not just to prevent pregnancy, but to prevent the spread of disease.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Christians" preaching &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstinence-only_sex_education"&gt;abstinence-only&lt;/a&gt; need to grow the f*!k up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/02/welfare-book-06.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 299px; height: 308px;" src="http://www.campusprogress.org/sync/images/134.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/?p=1788"&gt;dotCommonweal&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In addition to its very, very complete coverage this morning of Eliot Spitzer’s downfall, the &lt;em&gt;NYTimes&lt;/em&gt; carried what I consider a related report:  25 percent of U.S. teenaged girls have one or more sexually transmitted disease.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;In addition to an account of the CDC’s report, the &lt;em&gt;Times &lt;/em&gt;deployed its usual public health analysis of the problem, quoting head of Planned Parenthood thus: “’The national policy of promoting abstinence-only programs is a $1.5 billion failure,’ Ms. Richards said, ‘and teenage girls are paying the real price.’” She recommends ever more thorough sex education. But has that worked either?&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;And then there’s the question of condoms, about which the FDA says:  ”latex &lt;a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthtopics/condoms/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier" title="Recent and archival health news about condoms."&gt;&lt;span style="color:#004276;"&gt;condoms&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; are ‘highly effective’ at preventing infection by chlamydia, trichomoniasis, &lt;a href="http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/aids/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier" title="In-depth reference and news articles about AIDS/H.I.V.."&gt;&lt;span style="color:#004276;"&gt;H.I.V.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/gonorrhea/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier" title="In-depth reference and news articles about Gonorrhea."&gt;&lt;span style="color:#004276;"&gt;gonorrhea&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/hepatitis/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier" title="In-depth reference and news articles about Hepatitis."&gt;&lt;span style="color:#004276;"&gt;hepatitis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; B. The agency noted that condoms seemed less effective against genital herpes and &lt;a href="http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/syphilis-primary/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier" title="In-depth reference and news articles about Syphilis - primary."&gt;&lt;span style="color:#004276;"&gt;syphilis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Protection against human papillomavirus ‘is partial at best,’ the report said.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2005476351012125401?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2005476351012125401/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2005476351012125401' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2005476351012125401'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2005476351012125401'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/sexual-morality.html' title='sexual morality'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-3276530714091370539</id><published>2008-03-12T13:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-12T13:18:57.731-07:00</updated><title type='text'>13 now</title><content type='html'>Amy Welborn &lt;a href="http://amywelborn.wordpress.com/2008/03/11/12-days/"&gt;reminds us&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&amp;amp;art=11731&amp;amp;size=A"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&amp;amp;art=11731&amp;amp;size=A"&gt;It has been 12 days since Mosul’s Chaldean Archbishop was kidnapped:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The Iraqi Church is “suffering profoundly” from the “darkness and silence” which reign over the kidnap of Mosul’s Chaldean Archbishop, as anxiety and concern increase among the faithful and their pastors.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;A fresh appeal has been launched today by the Chaldean Archbishop of Kirkuk, Msgr. Louis Sako, pleading with the West not to fall into the trap of indifference in the face of violence in Iraq, or accept it as “normal”, but to once again raise its voice against the injustices which afflict the nation and its people.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.chaldean.org/"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 312px; height: 209px;" src="http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/media.canada.com/reuters/olusworld_iptc/2008-02-29t164141z_01_nootr_rtridsp_2_international-iraq-archbishop-dc.jpg?size=404x272" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-3276530714091370539?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/3276530714091370539/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=3276530714091370539' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3276530714091370539'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3276530714091370539'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/13-now.html' title='13 now'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-8112556604656623599</id><published>2008-03-08T17:39:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2008-03-08T17:42:01.950-08:00</updated><title type='text'>gnostic art</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.enemies.com/gnostic-art/"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 168px; height: 288px;" src="http://www.enemies.com/wp-content/themes/revolution_magazine-21/images/mlion.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-8112556604656623599?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/8112556604656623599/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=8112556604656623599' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8112556604656623599'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8112556604656623599'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/gnostic-art.html' title='gnostic art'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-6830219863492962412</id><published>2008-03-08T08:45:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-03-08T08:54:56.029-08:00</updated><title type='text'>no kirpaan near the papa please</title><content type='html'>A report that Sikhs will be banned from toting their traditional kirpaan ceremonial daggers in meeting with pope [&lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23499948/"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;]:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Sikhs had been invited to join other religious leaders for a 45-minute meeting with Benedict on April 17 in Washington to express a shared commitment to peace. But the Secret Service would not allow the Sikhs to carry a kirpaan, which resembles a small sword or dagger.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The kirpaan "represents the Sikh commitment to resist oppression and injustice" and is to be carried "only in a defensive posture and never to initiate confrontation," according to the World Sikh Council-America Region.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Isn't that a bit like telling diners at a restaurant that they can't have access to steak knives?  "You'd normally be able to use a knife to cut your meat, but by definition a knife is a weapon, so you'll have to forget your cultural practices of eating with utensils and start ripping the steak up with your bare hands.  For safety reasons."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://kamallarosekaur.wordpress.com/2008/03/08/harmander-singhs-state-of-union-address/"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 69px; height: 91px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Khanda1.svg/70px-Khanda1.svg.png" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lord help us learn to trust each other.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-6830219863492962412?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/6830219863492962412/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=6830219863492962412' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6830219863492962412'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6830219863492962412'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/no-kirpaan-near-papa-please.html' title='no kirpaan near the papa please'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-7374118723619068796</id><published>2008-03-08T08:34:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-03-08T08:43:54.118-08:00</updated><title type='text'>muslims only, please</title><content type='html'>From the AP, via &lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23470304/"&gt;MSNBC&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;BOSTON - Harvard University has banned men from one of its gyms for a few hours a week, a move to accommodate Muslim women who, for religious and cultural reasons, cannot exercise comfortably in their presence...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Harvard's policy is no different from commercial gyms that cater partially or even exclusively to women, said Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations.&lt;p class="textBodyBlack"&gt;"The Muslim bashers portray it as the world coming to end, but if women have a couple hours a week to work out in private, I don't see it as a major issue," he said.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;See also: "&lt;a href="http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/sharia-law-in-uk.html"&gt;Sharia Law in the UK?&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This will really begin to grate on the nerves of modern educated secular pluralists -- how much room shall we give each other before some of us feel trodden on?  And for 'red state' folks?  Beyond the Beyond, for them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We'll figure it out together, so long as we're patient and long-suffering with our brothers and sisters (and so long as they are with us too).  But this is a sure sign of the fast (fast!) growth of Islam in the West.  &lt;a href="http://makkah.wordpress.com/2007/11/01/muslim-women-in-sports-muslima-basketball-team-in-action/"&gt;Very interesting&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://hu-islam.blogspot.com/2006/01/muslim-girls-basketball-team.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 307px; height: 388px;" src="http://static.flickr.com/36/85017072_6c61352e9c.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-7374118723619068796?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/7374118723619068796/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=7374118723619068796' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7374118723619068796'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7374118723619068796'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/muslims-only-please.html' title='muslims only, please'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-8537522231669956942</id><published>2008-03-08T08:16:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-03-08T08:32:51.997-08:00</updated><title type='text'>ancient-future worship</title><content type='html'>MSNBC &lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23531037/"&gt;has&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="textBodyBlack"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="textBodyBlack"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class="textBodyBlack"&gt;Evangelicals observing Lent?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="textBodyBlack"&gt;Fasting, and giving up chocolate and favorite pastimes like watching TV during the 40 days before Easter are practices many evangelical Protestants have long rejected as too Catholic and unbiblical.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="textBodyBlack"&gt;But Lent -- a time of inner cleansing and reflection upon &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Jesus+Christ?tid=informline"&gt;Jesus Christ&lt;/a&gt;'s sufferings before his resurrection -- is one of many ancient church practices being embraced by an increasing number of evangelicals, sometimes with a modern twist. The National Community Church, which has three locations in the District and one in &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Arlington+County?tid=informline"&gt;Arlington County&lt;/a&gt;, updated the Lenten fast by adding a Web component: a 40-day blog, where participants from as far away as &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Australia?tid=informline"&gt;Australia&lt;/a&gt;, Korea and &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Mexico?tid=informline"&gt;Mexico&lt;/a&gt; discuss their spiritual cleansing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="textBodyBlack"&gt;This increasing connection with Christianity's classical traditions goes beyond Lent. Some evangelical churches offer confession and weekly communion. They distribute ashes on Ash Wednesday and light Advent calendars at Christmastime. Others have formed monastic communities, such as Casa Chirilagua in &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Alexandria?tid=informline"&gt;Alexandria&lt;/a&gt;, modeled on the monasteries that arose in Christianity's early years.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="textBodyBlack"&gt;This represents a "major sea change in evangelical life," according to D.H. Williams, professor of patristics and historical theology at &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Baylor+University?tid=informline"&gt;Baylor University&lt;/a&gt;. "Evangelicalism is coming to point where the early church has become the newest staple of its diet."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="textBodyBlack"&gt;Experts say most who have taken on such practices have grown disillusioned with the contemporary, shopping-center feel of the megachurches embraced by baby boomers, with their casually dressed ministers and rock-band praise music.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="textBodyBlack"&gt;Instead, evangelicals -- many of them young -- are adopting a trend that has come to be known as "worship renewal" or "ancient-future worship."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p class="textBodyBlack"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.google.com/search?q=pilgrimage"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 806px; height: 565px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Stjacquescompostelle1.png/800px-Stjacquescompostelle1.png" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="textBodyBlack"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-8537522231669956942?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/8537522231669956942/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=8537522231669956942' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8537522231669956942'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8537522231669956942'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/ancient-future-worship.html' title='ancient-future worship'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-988126798674698264</id><published>2008-03-05T19:21:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-03-05T19:27:20.731-08:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>Age To Come blog &lt;a href="http://theagetocome.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/the-full-armour-of-god/"&gt;has this&lt;/a&gt; on spiritual preparation, with weapons of war as metaphor for trial and power:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2 id="post-366"&gt;&lt;a href="http://theagetocome.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/the-full-armour-of-god/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: The full armour of God"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;h2 id="post-366"&gt;&lt;a href="http://theagetocome.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/the-full-armour-of-god/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: The full armour of God"&gt;The full armour of God&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;    &lt;!-- IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE GOOGLE ADS, THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO PUT THEM --&gt;           &lt;div class="snap_preview"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I thought, what with things Anglican here, there and everywhere, now might be a good time to remind ourselves of the larger picture. The excerpt below taken from &lt;a href="http://mikeboldea.blogspot.com/2008/03/preparations.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ephesians 6:10-13, “Finally my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and have done all to stand.” &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;This is the indisputable message of God to all who would hear it today. It is not to move to a far off land, it is not to hoard or store, it is to prepare ourselves spiritually for what is about to descent. The message of the hour for God’s remnant is to make sure that their retain the whole armor of God, from truth, to righteousness, to the preparation of the gospel of peace, to faith, salvation and the word of God. All these parts make the whole, all are equally important, and all are necessary to our ability to overcome the darkness, and to stand in the evil day.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;We cannot have the breastplate, without the sword or the helmet, or the helmet without having our waist girded, and our feet shod. All work in concert, to make up the true warrior of Christ, one who is not only willing to stand, but able to stand, who has done all in preparation for the battle that is to come.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;We must be complete Christians, in complete armor, whole and unwavering in the face of the evil day that is upon us. That the evil days are approaching is no longer a debatable issue, for all one must do is turn on the morning news, or surf a few news sites to see where the world is headed. I speak not of a singular nation, but of a global crisis that will test the faith, endurance, and resilience of every man.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;These are the days in which few will stand, and many will fall, wherein one will know in whom they have placed their trust and in whom they have relied.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;We prepare not that we may boast of our foresight, we put on the armor not so others might see we are warriors, but simply that we might stand, and having done all to stand.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;When all the messages of ease and comfort, of opulence and excess will be proven an illusion by the reality that will set in there will be chaos within what we now know as the church. Uncertain, unprepared, defenseless, many will run to and fro looking for truth, looking for an anchor in the storm, and it will be in these days that some will be called upon to point the way to the Bible, to the cross, to Christ. With wisdom as our guide, may we prepare now for the soon coming days, may our foundation be firmly planted upon the rock that is Christ and His word, that in our obedience and humility we might have peace, and the comfort of knowing that we are safe from harm in His eternal embrace.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;/div&gt;    &lt;strong&gt;Explore posts in the same categories:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href="http://wordpress.com/tag/christian/" title="View all posts in Christian" rel="category tag"&gt;Christian&lt;/a&gt;,  &lt;a href="http://wordpress.com/tag/prophecy/" title="View all posts in Prophecy" rel="category tag"&gt;Prophecy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://wordpress.com/tag/prophecy/" title="View all posts in Prophecy" rel="category tag"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But you know, I'm bored and tired of the occult metaphors.  I remember the preacher telling us "always carry your Bible, and you can tell folks it's your sword.  And if you ain't got that handy, just carry your little New Testament, you'll at least have your dagger."  Metaphor has its limits. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There's the literal word, which is mental and weak.  Then there's the metaphors, which may help take you further in.  But ultimately you've &lt;a href="http://wccm.org/"&gt;got to sit down and practice&lt;/a&gt;, then &lt;a href="http://catholiccharitiesusa.org/"&gt;get up&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.afsc.org/"&gt;and practice&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-988126798674698264?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/988126798674698264/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=988126798674698264' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/988126798674698264'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/988126798674698264'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/age-to-come-blog-has-this-on-spiritual.html' title=''/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2002356922149787962</id><published>2008-03-05T19:04:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-03-05T19:19:44.236-08:00</updated><title type='text'>to hell with the gospels</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.monasticdialog.com/images/authors/griffiths.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 135px; height: 175px;" src="http://www.monasticdialog.com/images/authors/griffiths.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;...if the gospels &lt;a href="http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/bible-league-jesus-christ-changing-lives-in-india-kenya-colombia-middle-east/"&gt;aren't true&lt;/a&gt; to His message.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"If you see the Buddha in the lane, kill him."&lt;br /&gt;"If you see the Christ in the road, eat him."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Minister to India?  Yes, minister to India:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.scriptoriumdaily.com/wp-content/photos/Mother_Theresa_with_armless_baby.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;" src="http://www.scriptoriumdaily.com/wp-content/photos/Mother_Theresa_with_armless_baby.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2002356922149787962?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2002356922149787962/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2002356922149787962' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2002356922149787962'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2002356922149787962'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/to-hell-with-gospels.html' title='to hell with the gospels'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-8282479067112586073</id><published>2008-03-05T18:57:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-03-05T19:30:16.967-08:00</updated><title type='text'>friendship, church, sangha</title><content type='html'>Faith Dance on &lt;a href="http://danbrennan.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/03/is-contemporary.html"&gt;friendship [link]&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm thinking about friendship and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangha"&gt;sangha&lt;/a&gt;.  Is the term &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;church&lt;/span&gt; analogous, or should it be, to the term &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sangha&lt;/span&gt;?  The church as a brotherhood/sisterhood of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;practice&lt;/span&gt;, of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;prayer&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Friendship lets us grow (and grow closer to the Spirit) by growing closer to each other.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://images.google.com/images?q=sangha"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 469px; height: 413px;" src="http://torontoisland.org/Portals/3/images-church/ChurchExtcfw.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-8282479067112586073?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/8282479067112586073/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=8282479067112586073' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8282479067112586073'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8282479067112586073'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/friendship-church-sangha.html' title='friendship, church, sangha'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2767527474894688600</id><published>2008-03-05T18:54:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-03-05T18:57:16.707-08:00</updated><title type='text'>jesus politics</title><content type='html'>Cracked Pots posts a piece by &lt;a href="http://joseandmayra.com/?p=361"&gt;Gabriel Salguero&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3 class="storytitle" id="post-361"&gt;&lt;a href="http://joseandmayra.com/?p=361" rel="bookmark"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;h3 class="storytitle" id="post-361"&gt;&lt;a href="http://joseandmayra.com/?p=361" rel="bookmark"&gt;Jesus: Is he electable&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;  &lt;div class="meta"&gt;Filed under:&lt;a href="http://joseandmayra.com/?cat=6" title="View all posts in Practical Theology" rel="category"&gt;Practical Theology&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://joseandmayra.com/?cat=4" title="View all posts in Faith" rel="category"&gt;Faith&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://joseandmayra.com/?cat=3" title="View all posts in Politics" rel="category"&gt;Politics&lt;/a&gt; — posted by Jose Humphreys on March 5, 2008 @ 11:28 pm&lt;/div&gt;    &lt;div class="storycontent"&gt;   &lt;p&gt;This is an article “On Faith” by Gabriel Salguero a friend and pastor here in Manhattan.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think that Jesus, if nominated, would not run. Jesus’ function as a prophet transcends political partisanship. I am utterly convinced that he would have a corrective for all political parties, this is what prophets do. Let me be clear that Christian does not equal blind allegiance to any political party or ideology. This is dangerous and idolatrous. Jesus would also be critical of religious practices that oppressed and ignored any group that includes Jews, Muslims, Hindus, agnostics, atheists, secularists, etc.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;p&gt;Read &lt;a href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/gabriel_salguero/2008/03/jesus_is_he_electable.html"&gt;more&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p class="tags"&gt;Tags: &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Christian" title="See the Technorati tag page for 'Christian'." rel="tag"&gt;Christian&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Jesus" title="See the Technorati tag page for 'Jesus'." rel="tag"&gt;Jesus&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Faith" title="See the Technorati tag page for 'Faith'." rel="tag"&gt;Faith&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Politics" title="See the Technorati tag page for 'Politics'." rel="tag"&gt;Politics&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Religion" title="See the Technorati tag page for 'Religion'." rel="tag"&gt;Religion&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Church" title="See the Technorati tag page for 'Church'." rel="tag"&gt;Church&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p class="tags"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Church" title="See the Technorati tag page for 'Church'." rel="tag"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2767527474894688600?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2767527474894688600/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2767527474894688600' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2767527474894688600'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2767527474894688600'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/jesus-politics.html' title='jesus politics'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-7203734373915473243</id><published>2008-03-05T18:49:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-03-05T18:53:56.542-08:00</updated><title type='text'>thanksgiving</title><content type='html'>A reminder from heaintthroughwithmeyet to &lt;a href="http://heaintthroughwithmeyet.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/are-you-thankful-do-you-rejoice/"&gt;be thankful&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Be thankful here, be thankful now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://images.google.com/images?q=thanksgiving"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 421px; height: 343px;" src="http://heaintthroughwithmeyet.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/ps41-13v-thumb.jpg?w=411&amp;amp;h=337" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-7203734373915473243?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/7203734373915473243/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=7203734373915473243' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7203734373915473243'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7203734373915473243'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/thanksgiving.html' title='thanksgiving'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2666187761284222899</id><published>2008-03-03T21:37:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-03-03T21:42:29.674-08:00</updated><title type='text'>grimoire of Pope Honorius</title><content type='html'>Couple remembrances:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Honorius_III"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Honorius_III&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/grimoire/grimoireofhonorius.pdf"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;span class="a"&gt;www.hermetics.org/pdf/grimoire/grimoireofhonorius.pdf&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;not that AD 638 Honorius, but rather the AD 1200-something one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.google.com/cse?cx=009941892632664145530%3A6gsiybgpl5c&amp;amp;q=honorius&amp;amp;sa=Search&amp;amp;cof=FORID%3A1&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 212px; height: 257px;" src="http://z.about.com/d/altreligion/1/0/P/W/3/grimoire.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2666187761284222899?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2666187761284222899/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2666187761284222899' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2666187761284222899'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2666187761284222899'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/grimoire-of-pope-honorius.html' title='grimoire of Pope Honorius'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-6220086968152670977</id><published>2008-03-03T20:58:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2008-03-03T21:21:30.461-08:00</updated><title type='text'>downward mobility of Christ 2</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 86px; height: 86px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/Red_flag_II.svg/80px-Red_flag_II.svg.png" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the previous Claiborne piece, I'm not sure that it follows that for poverty to end, wealth must too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You know, yesterday I was talking to my son about stuff and we were going through some of the anthropology texts on the shelf -- Colin Turnbull, Victor Turner, Geertz -- and I realized that poverty isn't a lack of economic activity, technological advancement, or of industry.  You can be dirt "poor" by SoCal standards but get all the cassava root you need, and live in balance and happiness with your little river -- it's not about "stuff", it's about livelihood and the ability to get whatever subset of the whole eco-organism you need in order to survive and prosper.  Survival and prosperity &lt;i&gt;are not&lt;/i&gt; synonymous with industry and profit.  &lt;a href="http://awakening.typepad.com/_awakening/2008/02/the-cross-lost.html"&gt;Gave &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/"&gt;me &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.rhettsmith.com/?p=843"&gt;a jolt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/2008/02/26/book-review-jesus-for-president-initial-thoughts/"&gt; to see&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.benbirdsong.com/archives/193"&gt; that &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://anamchara.com/2008/02/21/quote-for-the-day-45/"&gt;in a new way&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So wealth is here and now, when the river gives up fish, when the pecans are plenty under the tree.  Must &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;that &lt;/span&gt;end for lack to end?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do not believe it's a zero-sum game.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is it?&lt;br /&gt; Did Jesus?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-6220086968152670977?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/6220086968152670977/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=6220086968152670977' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6220086968152670977'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6220086968152670977'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/downward-mobility-of-christ-2.html' title='downward mobility of Christ 2'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-7042603158823568784</id><published>2008-03-03T20:29:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-03-03T20:36:09.159-08:00</updated><title type='text'>downward mobility of Christ</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.churchunderthebridge.org/"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 539px; height: 291px;" src="http://data.fineartstudioonline.com/websites/ChurchUndertheBridge/works/4850_147656l.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From Shane Claiborne and Speaking of Faith [&lt;a href="http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/programs/newmonastics/claiborne_downwardmobility.shtml"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;]:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="background: rgb(248, 255, 250) none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; margin-bottom: 12pt;"&gt;  &lt;span style=";font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;color:black;"   &gt; by Shane Claiborne&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/programs/newmonastics/claiborne_downwardmobility.shtml" target="_blank"&gt;http://speakingoffaith.publicra&lt;wbr&gt;dio.org/programs/newmonastics&lt;wbr&gt;/claiborne_downwardmobility&lt;wbr&gt;.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Downward Mobility in an Upscale World&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=";font-family:Verdana;font-size:8;color:black;"   &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;The vision of Jesus is not spread through organizational structures, but through touch, breath, shared life. It is spread through people who have discovered love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not long ago, I sat and talked with some very wealthy Christians about what it means to be the church and to follow Jesus. One businessman confided, "I, too, have been thinking about following Christ and what that means … so I had this made." He pulled up his shirt-sleeve to reveal a bracelet, engraved with W.W.J.D (What Would Jesus Do?). It was custom-made of twenty-four karat gold.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe each of us can relate to this man — both his earnest desire to follow Jesus and his distorted execution of that desire, so bound up in the materialism of our culture. It is difficult to learn to live the downward mobility of the gospel in this age of wealth. For the most part, those of us who are rich never meet those of us who are poor. Instead, nonprofit organizations serve as brokers between the two in a booming business of poverty management.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe that the great tragedy of the church is not that rich Christians do not care about the poor, but that they do not know the poor. Yet if we are called to live the new community for which Christ was crucified, we cannot remain strangers to one another. Jesus demands that we live in a very different way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I recently surveyed people who said they were "strong followers of Jesus." Over 80 percent agreed with the statement, "Jesus spent much time with the poor." Yet only 1 percent said that they themselves spent time with the poor. We believe we are following the God of the poor — yet we never truly encounter the poor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;About five years ago, I became part of a community called the simple way, a group of Christians literally born out of the wreckage of the church. Dozens of homeless families and children had moved into St. Edward's, a cavernous, abandoned Catholic church in one of the most struggling neighborhoods of Philadelphia. A small group of us who were students at Eastern College, a suburban Christian school, decided to move in with them as a gesture of solidarity. From that initial step, one miracle followed another as those families mentored us in community, worship, and love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eventually, we settled in a rowhouse in Kensington, a few blocks from St. Edward's. It is the poorest (but most beautiful!) district in Pennsylvania. There is no place we'd rather call home. Here, we play and dance. We plant gardens. We feed people. We cry. We have a community store. We help kids with homework. We live, and we spend our lives joining folks in poverty as they struggle to end it. Because we know that we cannot end poverty without ending wealth, we also spend time talking with Christian communities about our work and hosting visitors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before moving to St. Edward's and then Kensington, I had worked in Calcutta, India, first at Mother Teresa's home for the destitute dying and then in a leper colony. A week after returning to the United States, I began a year at Willow Creek Community Church, one of the largest, wealthiest congregations in the world — where a food court graces their worship center. Talk about culture shock!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This contrast brought me face to face with Christ's radical love, a love strong enough to bring us together across chasms of difference. I longed for the two worlds to meet, for the lepers to know the landowners. I committed my life to trying to make that a reality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Over the years I have come to see how charity fits into — and legitimizes — our system of wealth and poverty. Charity assures that the rich will feel good while the poor will remain with us. It is important that the poor remain with us, because our capitalist system hinges on it. Without someone on the bottom, there is no American dream and no hope for upward mobility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Charity also functions to keep the wealthy sane. Tithes, tax-exempt donations, and short-term mission trips, while they accomplish some good, also function as outlets that allow wealthy Christians to pay off their consciences while avoiding a revolution of lifestyle. People do their time in a social program or distribute food and clothes through organizations which take their excess. That way, they never actually have to face the poor and give their clothes, their food, their beds. Wealthy Christians never actually have to be with poor people, with Christ in disguise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If charity did not provide these carefully sanctioned outlets, Christians might be forced to live the reckless Gospel of Jesus by abandoning the stuff of earth. Instead, thanks to charity, we can live out a comfortable, privatized discipleship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But when we get to heaven and are separated into sheep and goats (Matt. 25), I don't believe Jesus is going to say, "When I was hungry, you gave a check to the United Way and they fed me" or "When I was naked, you donated to the Salvation Army and they clothed me." Jesus is not seeking distant acts of charity. He is seeking concrete actions: "You fed me, … you visited me, … you welcomed me in, ... you clothed me.…"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we are to truly be the church, poverty must become a face we recognize as our own kin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Several years ago, I attended a protest against sweatshops where the organizers had not invited the typical rally speakers — lawyers, activists, advocates. Instead, they brought kids from the sweatshops. A child from Indonesia pointed to his face. "I got this scar when my master lashed me for not working hard enough. When it bled, he did not want me to stop working or to ruin the cloth, so he took a lighter and burned it shut. I got this scar making stuff for you."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was suddenly consumed with the overwhelming reality of the suffering body of Christ. Jesus now bore not just nail marks and scars from thorns, but a gash down his face. How could I possibly follow Jesus and buy anything from that master?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we are content with discipleship that ends merely with generosity, we still serve money. Generosity is a beautiful response, but we should not confuse it with love. Generosity is merely what is expected; what is required is to return that which has been stolen. God did not create some of us rich and others of us poor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Basil the Great, writing in the fourth century, put it this way: "When someone strips a man of his clothes, we call him a thief. And one who might clothe the naked and does not — should not he be given the same name? The bread in your cupboard belongs to the hungry; the coat in your wardrobe belongs to the naked; the shoes you let rot belong to the barefoot; the money in your vaults belongs to the destitute." Or, in the words of Dorothy Day, "If you have two coats, one of them belongs to the poor." Should we not, then, return our stolen goods with humility, like a child returning a stolen candy bar to the grocery store clerk? Should we not cry out, in the words of St. Vincent de Paul: "May the poor man forgive me the bread I give him"?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Often wealthy folks ask me what they can do for the simple way. I could ask them for a few thousand dollars, but that would be too easy for both of us. Instead, I ask them to come visit. Writing a check makes us feel good and can fool us into thinking that we have loved the poor. But seeing the squat houses and tent cities and hungry children will wreck our lives. We will never again be the same.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As we have done this work and have accompanied others new to it, we've come to see a pattern. People join us with the idea of "saving the poor." Later, they say instead that "the poor saved me." But both comments have one thing in common. They revolve around me — what I have to give poor people and what they can give me. God wants us to move beyond ourselves to join all of creation in groaning for liberation. There we face, perhaps for the first time, the reality that we, too, are poor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe the church has forgotten its identity. The church is not an institution, a meeting, or a building. It is not something we go to. The church is something we are — an organism, not an organization.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Instead of living out this alternative vision, the church has been content to be a broker between the rich and the poor. Both those trapped in poverty and those trapped in riches view the church as a distribution center, a place where the poor come to get stuff and the rich come to dump stuff. No radical new community is formed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this model, both go away satisfied (the rich feel good, the poor get fed) — but neither goes away transformed. They do not join together to discover a new way of living.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In ministering in this way, the church has adopted the model of many of our nonprofit organizations. Functionally, many nonprofits act as brokers between the rich and the poor. They facilitate the exchange of goods and services, putting plenty of professionals in the middle to guarantee that the rich do not have to face the poor and that power does not shift. Rich and poor are kept in separate worlds. Charity does not feed fundamental change.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Brokering poverty also seduces Christians into being gatekeepers to power. Our progressive movements are haunted by the temptation to facilitate power. If anything, the recent dismantling of the welfare system and the corresponding public praise of small attempts by churches, nonprofits, and other faith-based institutions to take up the slack has increased this pressure. Policies like charitable choice (where churches compete for federal funding to run social programs) allow our government to pat churches on the back: "You do a better job at managing poverty than we do, so we'll just discontinue our social supports and let you do the job!" And our churches, flattered and uncritical, scramble for the new state money like a prize.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In that model, the power structure has not budged. The power has merely changed hands. But power does not trickle down. Just as trickle-down economics has failed, trickle-down politics does not bring change.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many beautiful Christians working for social change in a range of movements believe we can bring about fundamental change by using power benevolently rather than reworking the power equation. We see ourselves as the good guys who will use our influence for justice — and perhaps, in these terms, we succeed in getting our candidate on the ballot or elected. But the Christ we follow has a different, harder path--one of downward mobility, of struggling to become the least, of joining those at the bottom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Several years ago, I was at a meeting where a new movement to end poverty was announced. I looked around. The only poor people in sight were the handful of people I had come with. Launching a movement to end poverty without poor people in critical roles is like launching a civil rights movement without Black people, or a feminist movement without women. As long as the poor are not present and intricately involved in the process, ending poverty will remain an intellectual, political concept. It will not convert us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The church needs to stop talking about ending the pain of the poor and instead join the poor. All around us, the poor are crying out. They can no longer be silenced. Wherever that outcry is heard, the church must be present.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All this does not mean that social-service organizations do not do a great deal of good. I am not calling for all these organizations to be dismantled. But I am calling Christians to ask critical questions about their relationship to God's poor people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe all our "programs" should have their genesis in true relationship. At our house, we tutor — but we did not start by deciding to do a tutoring program. We simply fell in love with kids who needed help with their homework. We feed people — but we did not begin with a decision to start a feeding program. We simply fell in love with our neighbors, and they were hungry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We have now established a nonprofit organization ourselves, but we did this in order for the organization to serve us. We are not committed to the organization, but rather to our fellowship together.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I see many communities doing amazing things through established organizations. God can — and does — work through these organizations. But the reign of God dwells in people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those of us who yearn for the kingdom of God must follow in the steps of Jesus. Jesus was not "in charge" of the poor. He was poor. The message of Christ from the manger to the cross is that the world is conquered through weakness, through leastness, through struggle--not from the top, but from the bottom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The people wanted a mighty Messiah. They got a baby refugee. They wanted a powerful king to take over Rome. They got a wandering homeless man. He could have saved the world with his mighty power, but he did it through his ridiculous love. The power of God lies in the brokenness of Jesus: naked, cursed, spit upon, with birds picking at his flesh as he died the rotten death of a criminal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The great temptation of the church, and of every believer, is the offer Satan made to Jesus in the desert: to win the world with power. But power will not end poverty. We must discover another way of living.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus did not set up a program, but rather modeled a way of living that incarnated the reign of God. That reign did not spread through organizational establishments or structural systems. It spread through touch, through breath, through life. It spread through people who discovered love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am haunted by the command of Jesus to love our neighbor as ourselves. I struggle because I sleep in a house while my neighbor sleeps in a cardboard box; I eat twice a day while my neighbor hasn't eaten once. I draw strength from following Jesus in community. I live with people who, if they pass someone with a worse pair of shoes, have taken their shoes off and switched; people who have quietly handed over winter jackets to someone they met on the street without a coat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the reckless love of Jesus, which teaches us to see the connections between our wealth and our neighbor's poverty. The love of Jesus will teach us another way of doing life, a way that will bring God's reign to earth as it is in heaven. The reign of God is not for the future. It is something we live today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus reminds us that it is easy to love people who are just like us: "Even idolators do that" (Matt. 5:47). We are called to love those who hate us. Love those who create poverty, and love those who are trapped in it. See in each of them yourself — the same blood and tears We are all capable of the same evil, and we have potential for the same good. As one believer said, "In the oppressed I recognize my own face, and in the hands of the oppressor I recognize my own hands." From addicts I learn of my addiction, and from the saints I learn of my holiness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The God of love and the love of God know no bounds. The unending love of Jesus teaches revolutionaries to love police officers, anarchists to love politicians, vegetarians to love meat eaters, peacemakers to love soldiers. This is the love that makes us the church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ultimately, only this radical love of Jesus can end the poverty-wealth dichotomy. When the rich meet the poor, together they will end wealth. When the poor meet the rich, together they will end poverty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People do not get crucified for charity. People are crucified for living out a love that disrupts the social order, that calls forth a new world. People are not crucified for helping poor people. People are crucified for joining them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-7042603158823568784?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/7042603158823568784/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=7042603158823568784' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7042603158823568784'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7042603158823568784'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/03/downward-mobility-of-christ.html' title='downward mobility of Christ'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-6891107771465768276</id><published>2008-02-28T19:05:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-28T19:15:31.119-08:00</updated><title type='text'>may He lead us from the darkness to the Light</title><content type='html'>Christian militants disrupt our Senate's invocation prayer:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="355" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/EZ9To30Hz7A&amp;amp;rel=1&amp;amp;border=0"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/EZ9To30Hz7A&amp;amp;rel=1&amp;amp;border=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="355" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[via &lt;a href="http://www.technorati.com/videos/tag/christian"&gt;technorati&lt;/a&gt;, via &lt;a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/"&gt;talkingpointsmemo&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who do these wee Christians reckon "the Deity Supreme" is?  What do they reckon that is?  What do they reckon that the Supreme Being their Hindoo brother prays to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;is&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;if He &lt;span&gt;isn't&lt;/span&gt; God?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;  There is no God but God.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;God is One, there is just He: fundamental theological principle, of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, yes, and Hinduism, yes?  This is such an entry level concept.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-6891107771465768276?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/6891107771465768276/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=6891107771465768276' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6891107771465768276'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6891107771465768276'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/may-he-lead-us-from-darkness-to-light.html' title='may He lead us from the darkness to the Light'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2363448406275986678</id><published>2008-02-28T08:19:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-28T18:58:07.995-08:00</updated><title type='text'>hard right xtian sex culture</title><content type='html'>This from "&lt;a href="http://anthropotek.blogspot.com/2008/02/hard-right-xtian-sex-culture.html"&gt;Anthropotek&lt;/a&gt;", and worth quoting in full:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Re-virgin-ization breaking into news again:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Across the country, "revirginization" appears to be gaining steam. Spiritual efforts to reclaim virginity emerged back in the early 1990s and now, prompted by abstinence-only school courses taught to thousands of girls nationwide, and by religious teachers, there are reports of more and more young women like Watts attempting a sexual do-over. Other women are opting for a more radical route to reclaim their virginity: surgical replacement of the hymen, the small membrane that stretches from the walls of the vagina and that typically breaks when a woman first has intercourse — or for many other reasons, from tampon use to vigorous exercise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the last few years, say doctors who perform the surgery, a steady stream of patients, many motivated by the conflict between mores in this country versus their country of birth, or the country of their parents' birth, are interested. "The rate of inquiries is increasing," says Dr. Denise Baker, a Bradenton, Fla., surgeon who performs the procedure on about 100 women a year. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[via &lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23254178/"&gt;MSNBC&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Amazing -- the right traditionally eschews 'feel good' and relativistic 'feels good to me' theology for hardline fundamentalist, literalist readings of the Good Book. But here we have grown women, many times deflowered, claiming that they're prayer makes them "feel" like virgins again. And the megachurches are buying it wholesale... which opens the way for repairing the once-opened hymen with surgical technology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is that cosmetic surgery? Would be morbidly curious to see a meme map showing connections and overlays between this technologically accomplished (but thoroughly prayer-powered) re-writing of biological history &amp;amp; that most gruesome, disempowering (and also religiously motivated) act in sub-Saharan Africa -- female "circumcision".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Go read some Alice Walker, please.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/002-4866080-1774406?%5Fencoding=UTF8&amp;amp;search-type=ss&amp;amp;index=books&amp;amp;field-author=Alice%20Walker"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 188px; height: 162px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/Alice_Walker.jpg/200px-Alice_Walker.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is there some bridge here between fundamentalist Christianity and fundamentalist Islam -- where the religion has to hit women where &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;we &lt;/span&gt;live?  Megachurches as germination beds for a reactionary theocratic right-wing-evangelical-southern-baptist-taleban?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sophia, save &lt;a href="http://www.5minutesformom.com/3023/sak-dakota-hobo/"&gt;us&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2363448406275986678?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2363448406275986678/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2363448406275986678' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2363448406275986678'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2363448406275986678'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/hard-right-xtian-sex-culture.html' title='hard right xtian sex culture'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-5237235669234258179</id><published>2008-02-27T08:15:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-27T08:26:14.146-08:00</updated><title type='text'>right reverend Micahel Nazir-Ali says</title><content type='html'>The Bishop suggests Islam is a threat to Britons, to British culture:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bishop Nazir-Ali, who remains under police protection with his family, went on to warn that unless Christianity fills the current "spiritual and moral vacuum" that has grown in Britian over the last 50 years Islam could its place.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;"Do the British people really want to lose that rooting in the Christian faith that has given them everything they cherish - art, literature, architecture, institutions, the monarchy, their value system, their laws?" he asked. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;{via &lt;a href="http://www.christiantoday.com/article/bishop.stands.firm.on.nogo.areas.claims/17040.htm"&gt;ChristianToday&lt;/a&gt;}&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That vacuum?  That may be a spiritual vacuum, but it's not a moral one.  And it's the fault of the Church that people don't play Church anymore.  Somebody said 'the future of Christianity is contemplative -- or there will be no Christianity.' The rote and rule and empty rite has created the vacuum.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Nazir-Ali"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 149px; height: 111px;" src="http://www.christiantoday.com/files/2008_02/society_17040_a8689.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-5237235669234258179?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/5237235669234258179/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=5237235669234258179' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5237235669234258179'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5237235669234258179'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/right-reverend-micahel-nazir-ali-says.html' title='right reverend Micahel Nazir-Ali says'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2369180766697220870</id><published>2008-02-27T07:33:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-27T07:35:18.757-08:00</updated><title type='text'>women reclaiming Islam</title><content type='html'>Via [&lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7265021.stm"&gt;BBC News&lt;/a&gt;]:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Women 'reclaiming Islam'&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;American Muslims' determination to grasp the basic principles of their religion - rather than the sometimes harsh rules contributed by other cultures during its long history - grew out of the wreckage of the World Trade Center towers. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;  &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;                   &lt;!-- S IBOX --&gt;     &lt;table align="right" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="208"&gt;     &lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;                &lt;td width="5"&gt;&lt;img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gif" alt="" border="0" height="1" hspace="0" vspace="0" width="5" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;                &lt;td class="sibtbg"&gt;                                                  &lt;div class="o"&gt;                                &lt;img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44452000/jpg/_44452354_lena_alhusseini2_203.jpg" alt="Lena Alhusseini of the Arab American Family Support Center, New York" border="0" height="152" hspace="0" vspace="0" width="203" /&gt;                        &lt;/div&gt;                                                                           &lt;div&gt;     &lt;div class="mva"&gt;    &lt;img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/start_quote_rb.gif" alt="" border="0" height="13" width="24" /&gt;    &lt;b&gt;We've been working with a variety of organisations on really taking the teachings of Islam and delivering them without the baggage of tradition&lt;/b&gt;   &lt;img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/end_quote_rb.gif" alt="" align="right" border="0" height="13" vspace="0" width="23" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/div&gt;         &lt;/div&gt;                                                                     &lt;div class="mva"&gt;  &lt;div&gt;Lena Alhusseini&lt;/div&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;                                                                        &lt;div class="o"&gt;                                &lt;img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/inline_dashed_line.gif" alt="" border="0" height="1" hspace="0" vspace="2" width="203" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                           &lt;/div&gt;                                                                                     &lt;/td&gt;            &lt;/tr&gt;     &lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;             &lt;!-- E IBOX --&gt; Shahnaz Taplin Chinoy stands on Brooklyn Heights and surveys the southern tip of Manhattan. She recalls the events of 11 September 2001, and the moment she made it her mission to reclaim the Islam of her childhood. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"I was bombarded by questions from friends," she says. "They kept saying, 'why does Islam suppress women? Why does Islam condone violence?' I was flabbergasted at the Islam of the hijackers which was so disconnected with the Islam of my youth - which was not extremist at all."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2369180766697220870?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2369180766697220870/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2369180766697220870' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2369180766697220870'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2369180766697220870'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/women-reclaiming-islam.html' title='women reclaiming Islam'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-8661793668282453820</id><published>2008-02-26T17:15:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-26T17:17:38.734-08:00</updated><title type='text'>a great Islamic Reformation</title><content type='html'>Turkish scholars are looking carefully at the prophet Mohammed's (Peace Be Upon Him) hadiths, says the BBC [&lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7264903.stm"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;]:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Turkey is intent on sweeping away that "cultural baggage" and returning to a form of Islam it claims accords with its original values and those of the Prophet. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;  &lt;!-- S IIMA --&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;    &lt;table align="right" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="203"&gt;    &lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;    &lt;div&gt;     &lt;img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44452000/jpg/_44452132_irankoran_b203_afp.jpg" alt="An Iranian woman walks past a large Koran" border="0" height="152" hspace="0" vspace="0" width="203" /&gt;     &lt;div class="cap"&gt;Women are re-examining their portrayal in the scriptures&lt;/div&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;    &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;   &lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;         &lt;!-- E IIMA --&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;But this is where the revolutionary nature of the work becomes apparent. Even some sayings accepted as being genuinely spoken by Muhammad have been altered and reinterpreted. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Prof Mehmet Gormez, a senior official in the Department of Religious Affairs and an expert on the Hadith, gives a telling example. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"There are some messages that ban women from travelling for three days or more without their husband's permission and they are genuine. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"But this isn't a religious ban. It came about because in the Prophet's time it simply wasn't safe for a woman to travel alone like that. But as time has passed, people have made permanent what was only supposed to be a temporary ban for safety reasons." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;The project justifies such bold interference in the 1,400-year-old content of the Hadith by rigorous academic research.   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Prof Gormez points out that in another speech, the Prophet said "he longed for the day when a woman might travel long distances alone". &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;So, he argues, it is clear what the Prophet's goal was.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-8661793668282453820?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/8661793668282453820/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=8661793668282453820' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8661793668282453820'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8661793668282453820'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/great-islamic-reformation.html' title='a great Islamic Reformation'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-7302663806427645707</id><published>2008-02-26T08:49:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-26T09:41:45.448-08:00</updated><title type='text'>obama on faith</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/faith/"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 621px; height: 147px;" src="http://www.barackobama.com/images/temp_flashheader.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;O seems led by The Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;Here's excerpts from one of the greatest speeches on being a modern Christian that I've ever heard:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="355" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/bV_0RcaUAtE&amp;amp;rel=1"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/bV_0RcaUAtE&amp;amp;rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="355" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[&lt;a href="http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1358313999/bclid933143286/bctid1078637745"&gt;link to full video&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-7302663806427645707?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/7302663806427645707/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=7302663806427645707' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7302663806427645707'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7302663806427645707'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-on-faith.html' title='obama on faith'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2483299751841270118</id><published>2008-02-18T21:32:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-18T21:37:47.496-08:00</updated><title type='text'>unity</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Church"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 275px; height: 286px;" src="http://www.unityonline.org/homepage/features/unityFMFeature.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Smacks of the 'new age', &lt;a href="http://www.unityonline.org/"&gt;Unity does&lt;/a&gt;, but good gracious -- they really seem to have open hearts.  Hugging planet earth with prayer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The (almost, but not quite dogmatic) statements about the nature of God and Christ and the powers of affirmative thought and prayer are a bit of a turn off, sure.  But &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;any&lt;/span&gt; service that takes out a moment to sit in silent awe and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;be&lt;/span&gt; probably has more than a thin stripe of legitimacy.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2483299751841270118?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2483299751841270118/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2483299751841270118' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2483299751841270118'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2483299751841270118'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/unity.html' title='unity'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-5460109133874919890</id><published>2008-02-12T16:15:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-12T16:17:24.699-08:00</updated><title type='text'>lookin' good for Jesus</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44422000/jpg/_44422677_lookinggoodjesus203b.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 196px; height: 192px;" src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44422000/jpg/_44422677_lookinggoodjesus203b.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;A leading retailer in Singapore has withdrawn a cosmetics range with a Jesus theme after complaints from local Roman Catholics, local media report.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;The range, named Lookin' Good for Jesus, was on sale at three Topshop outlets in the Asian city state. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Catholics complained the cosmetics' marketing was disrespectful, full of sexual innuendo and trivialised Christianity. [&lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7241296.stm"&gt;BBC NEWS&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-5460109133874919890?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/5460109133874919890/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=5460109133874919890' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5460109133874919890'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5460109133874919890'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/lookin-good-for-jesus.html' title='lookin&apos; good for Jesus'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-435632506589281845</id><published>2008-02-11T13:27:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-11T13:29:32.804-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Rev. Tom Honey</title><content type='html'>@ TED Talks: "How Could God Have Allowed the Tsunami?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;This is a courageous talk for a Church of England vicar to have given. It concludes that certain traditional concepts of God just won't do ... and calls for believers and nonbelievers alike to dig deeper in their quest for truth.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;!--cut and paste--&gt;&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" id="VE_Player" align="middle" height="285" width="320"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://static.videoegg.com/ted/flash/loader.swf"&gt;&lt;param name="FlashVars" value="bgColor=FFFFFF&amp;amp;file=http://static.videoegg.com/ted/movies/TOMHONEY-2005_high.flv&amp;amp;autoPlay=false&amp;amp;fullscreenURL=http://static.videoegg.com/ted/flash/fullscreen.html&amp;amp;forcePlay=false&amp;amp;logo=&amp;amp;allowFullscreen=true"&gt;&lt;param name="quality" value="high"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="scale" value="noscale"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="window"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://static.videoegg.com/ted/flash/loader.swf" flashvars="bgColor=FFFFFF&amp;amp;file=http://static.videoegg.com/ted/movies/TOMHONEY-2005_high.flv&amp;amp;autoPlay=false&amp;amp;fullscreenURL=http://static.videoegg.com/ted/flash/fullscreen.html&amp;amp;forcePlay=false&amp;amp;logo=&amp;amp;allowFullscreen=true" quality="high" allowscriptaccess="always" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" scale="noscale" wmode="window" name="VE_Player" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" align="middle" height="285" width="320"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-435632506589281845?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/435632506589281845/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=435632506589281845' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/435632506589281845'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/435632506589281845'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/rev-tom-honey.html' title='Rev. Tom Honey'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-773439355675883017</id><published>2008-02-11T10:25:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-11T10:31:54.201-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Father Seán ÓLaoire</title><content type='html'>has really excellent audio homilies here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://spiritsinspacesuits.com/mp3s.php"&gt;http://spiritsinspacesuits.com/mp3s.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Father knows his scripture...&lt;br /&gt;Overview of the first .mp3:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;"&gt;1.  Mary Magdalene and the Mighty Mix-up&lt;br /&gt;      Speaks of the historical conflation of three women and of several stories; and the deliberate or accidental agenda around sex and sexism in the development of Christianity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;       &lt;br /&gt;       &lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;"&gt;2.  The Evolution of the Notion of Sin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;       &lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;"&gt;Speaks of the development of the idea of sin from taboo-breaking to covenant-breaking to law-breaking to being asleep.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;       &lt;br /&gt;       &lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;"&gt;3.  The Evolution of the Notion of Forgiveness&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;       &lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;"&gt;Speaks the development of the idea of forgiveness from tribal reintegration to rededication to covenant to priest-mediated reconciliation to Self-realization.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-773439355675883017?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/773439355675883017/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=773439355675883017' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/773439355675883017'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/773439355675883017'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/father-sen-laoire.html' title='Father Seán ÓLaoire'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-1715434539582189672</id><published>2008-02-09T17:17:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-28T19:00:58.521-08:00</updated><title type='text'>yaldabaoth strikes again</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/aroundtheworld/2008/02/28/we-were-nothing-but-pond-scum/"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 292px; height: 376px;" src="http://www.enemies.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/guardtower_cowhead_w_sig-copy.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-1715434539582189672?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/1715434539582189672/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=1715434539582189672' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/1715434539582189672'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/1715434539582189672'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/yaldabaoth-strikes-again.html' title='yaldabaoth strikes again'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-8167687849029791196</id><published>2008-02-09T10:50:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-09T11:03:21.192-08:00</updated><title type='text'>dobson don't vote</title><content type='html'>James Dobson is &lt;a href="http://www.smartchristian.com/?p=5479"&gt;apparently not gonna vote&lt;/a&gt; in the general elections of November 08.  He hasn't found a candidate he can support.  And that makes sense -- theocrats don't really believe in representative democracy, after all.  &lt;a href="http://www.family.org/"&gt;They believe in a strict goose-stepping cosmic monarchy, right?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dobson"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 309px; height: 250px;" src="http://www.airamerica.com/stateofbelief/files/stateofbelief/images/dobson.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-8167687849029791196?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/8167687849029791196/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=8167687849029791196' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8167687849029791196'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8167687849029791196'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/dobson-dont-vote.html' title='dobson don&apos;t vote'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-7172406991809489298</id><published>2008-02-09T10:40:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-09T10:48:59.518-08:00</updated><title type='text'>myspace not for christians</title><content type='html'>According to 'hisway' [&lt;a href="http://www.christianblog.com/blog/hisway/is-myspace-ok-for-christians/"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;], MySpace is kinda like Sodom and Gomorrah and good Christians ought to have nothing to do with it.  Quoth he:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Myspace is all about pride, selfish desires , lust of the flesh and outright evil. It amazes me how many people are blind to the devises of the enemy as they have not changed since the Garden of Eden.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The argument seems to be that you'll find "bad stuff" and "bad people" in MySpace, therefore it should be rent in wrath by the righteous.  Godly folks, one must guess, should only hang out in social network sites like &lt;a href="http://www.christianblog.com/"&gt;christianblog&lt;/a&gt;?  Because that's like really representative of the diversity and complexity of God's creation?  And because that's like really representative of the diversity of the human response to said creation?  Huh.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-7172406991809489298?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/7172406991809489298/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=7172406991809489298' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7172406991809489298'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7172406991809489298'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/myspace-not-for-christians.html' title='myspace not for christians'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-8583414897849499729</id><published>2008-02-09T08:17:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-09T17:11:58.381-08:00</updated><title type='text'>dabbling in vexes too</title><content type='html'>I was on a military base and I got into an argument with the manager of the base movie theater.  We were chatting about history and I mentioned Dr. John Dee.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Who's that?" he said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"He was a Christian magician and adviser to Queen Elizabeth.  Called on angels to help England defeat the   Spanish Armada."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Christian magician?  He wasn't a Christian then."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Yes he was.  He was a Christian &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;and&lt;/span&gt; a magician."  ...Argument heated up from there.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.omniglot.com/writing/enochian.htm"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 21px; height: 21px;" src="http://www.omniglot.com/blog/wp-content/themes/godofgates-10/images/separator.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Can you be a Christian and practice magick?  Some put it like: &lt;a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_bibl2.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;you ought not suffer a witch to live&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  Some Christians &lt;a href="http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/ChristianMagick.html"&gt;say magick is what Jesus had in mind&lt;/a&gt; for his followers.  &lt;a href="http://members.aol.com/RawnaMoon/magick.html"&gt;Christian-witch hybrids&lt;/a&gt; are working their &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;wicce &lt;/span&gt;right now.  Some say our search engines &lt;a href="http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=640"&gt;are acting oracles&lt;/a&gt;, that the Internet has made us &lt;a href="http://www.rushkoff.com/interactive.html"&gt;all players in a kind of cyber-tarot&lt;/a&gt;, whether orthodox, heterodox, agnostic, or acrostic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.omniglot.com/blog/"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 144px; height: 23px;" src="http://www.omniglot.com/images/langnames/nm_enochian.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me, I don't reckon working with magick is a very good idea.  Magick is messy, chaotic, and it tends to give people big-heads.  For me, the "natural magic" of sitting and Being is enough.  The magic is already in the world, working through us -- best to learn about its processes by &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_of_Unknowing"&gt;sincere observation&lt;/a&gt; rather than dissection and control.  And Christianity isn't really about controlling reality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But that doesn't mean sincere Christians can't sincerely practice magick.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What do you think?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-8583414897849499729?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/8583414897849499729/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=8583414897849499729' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8583414897849499729'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8583414897849499729'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/dabbling-in-vexes-too.html' title='dabbling in vexes too'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-3523396579261262317</id><published>2008-02-07T08:47:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-07T08:53:49.622-08:00</updated><title type='text'>sharia law in the u.k.?</title><content type='html'>Litigio-religious news from Great Britain: the Archbishop of Canterbury suggest the UK is heading toward partial Sharia law:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Under English law, people may devise their own way to settle a dispute in front of an agreed third party as long as both sides agree to the process. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Muslim Sharia courts and the Jewish Beth Din which already exist in the UK come into this category. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Dr Williams' comments are likely to fuel the debate over multiculturalism in the UK. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Last month, one of Dr William's colleagues, the Bishop of Rochester, said that non-Muslims may find it hard to live or work in some areas of the UK. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;The Right Reverend Dr Michael Nazir-Ali said there was "hostility" in some areas and described the government's multicultural policies as divisive. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;He said there had been a worldwide resurgence of Islamic extremism, leading to young people growing up alienated from the country they lived in. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;He has since received death threats and has been placed under police protection.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;    [&lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7232661.stm"&gt;From BBC News&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qur%27an"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 321px; height: 326px;" src="http://www.stanford.edu/group/areaone/clross/images/quarter1/koran_page.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-3523396579261262317?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/3523396579261262317/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=3523396579261262317' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3523396579261262317'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3523396579261262317'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/sharia-law-in-uk.html' title='sharia law in the u.k.?'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-7867245428730694020</id><published>2008-02-06T10:11:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-06T10:21:08.688-08:00</updated><title type='text'>quitting gayness in New Life Church</title><content type='html'>...apparently hasn't been easy for Pastor Haggard &lt;a href="http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2008/02/haggard-quits-rebreeder-program.html"&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;.  When are the New Lifers going to start going after some of the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abomination_%28Bible%29#Analysis_of_the_term"&gt;other abominations&lt;/a&gt;... like the folks who eat birds of prey? Or having a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;haughty tongue&lt;/span&gt;?  These abominations deserve attention too, no?  Though I grant it seems likely Haggard is abominable in more than one dimension...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.newlifechurch.org/"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_J_XezFVW_98/R6n6E9GIT2I/AAAAAAAAAEQ/jRpp_g4jPek/s200/graceeraser.PNG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5163933410783678306" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-7867245428730694020?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/7867245428730694020/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=7867245428730694020' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7867245428730694020'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7867245428730694020'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/quitting-gayness-in-new-life-church.html' title='quitting gayness in New Life Church'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://bp2.blogger.com/_J_XezFVW_98/R6n6E9GIT2I/AAAAAAAAAEQ/jRpp_g4jPek/s72-c/graceeraser.PNG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-8891411406320848519</id><published>2008-02-05T18:30:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-05T18:34:09.952-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='gnostic'/><title type='text'>gnostic homily for ash wednesday</title><content type='html'>I like this part of Rev. Marshall's &lt;a href="http://www.gnosis.org/ecclesia/homily_AshWednesday.htm"&gt;homily&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; Not until we know the Self as one can we overcome our addictive attachments to worldly things and truly enjoy what we possess on earth. Those who put on this light of Self-knowledge will pass by the archons while in the world and make their mystical ascent into the light. According to the &lt;i&gt;Gospel of Philip:&lt;/i&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;"Not only will the archons be unable to detain the perfect ones, but they will not be able  to see them, for if they see them, they will detain them. There is no other way for a person to acquire this quality except by putting on the perfect light and becoming perfect oneself. Everyone who has put this on will enter the Kingdom. This is the perfect light, and it is necessary that we by all means become perfect ones before we leave the world."&lt;/blockquote&gt; In the Lenten purification with the ashes we can take on this perfect light, not in another world after death, but here in this flesh. In this manner, we return our dust to dust, and find beneath it the fiery being and incorruptible light of our true Self—the Christ within.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://webcom.com/%7Egnosis/ecclesia/homilies.htm"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 139px; height: 225px;" src="http://www.gnosis.org/images/handsmp.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-8891411406320848519?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/8891411406320848519/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=8891411406320848519' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8891411406320848519'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8891411406320848519'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/gnostic-homily-for-ash-wednesday.html' title='gnostic homily for ash wednesday'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-5268305391844188792</id><published>2008-02-05T17:48:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-05T18:48:24.214-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pagan'/><title type='text'>heathens</title><content type='html'>I finally got my hands on a copy of &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Iron-John-Book-About-Men/dp/0306813769/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1202263475&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Iron John&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; again (a great book) and it's stirred an interest in me to go see what the heathens are up to these days... especially after thinking about the connection between &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ash wednesday&lt;/span&gt; and the ash tree that Odin hung himself on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's some of what I happened on:&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://runestone.org/home.html"&gt;AFA&lt;/a&gt; is &lt;a href="http://asatruupdate.blogspot.com/2008/01/afa-membership.html"&gt;looking for new members&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;Asahel is looking for meaning, &lt;a href="http://homepage.mac.com/asahel/AsahelSFM/B922510240/index.html"&gt;and blogging&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;Ranting &lt;a href="http://wyrdmeginthew.blogspot.com/"&gt;heathens&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;A &lt;a href="http://pagandad.blogspot.com/2008/02/response-to-comment-on-lexi-antorino.html"&gt;pagan dad&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;Pagan &lt;a href="http://paganmen.com/"&gt;menfolk site&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.witchvox.com/"&gt;Witchvox&lt;/a&gt;. Respeck.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.starhawk.org/"&gt;Starhawk&lt;/a&gt; is still at it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://raybuckland.com/"&gt;Ray Buckland&lt;/a&gt; is still at it.&lt;br /&gt;Don't forget &lt;a href="http://www.robertbly.com/"&gt;Robert Bly&lt;/a&gt;, whether pagan or not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just noticing.&lt;br /&gt;Carry on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/asatru"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 127px; height: 88px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Ardre_Odin_Sleipnir.jpg/130px-Ardre_Odin_Sleipnir.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Asatru types work hard to disclaim racism, don't they?  What about Wiccans -- are their covens exclusive to euro-descended folks, or open to all?  Curious.  Some of that old Northern Euro "volkish" talk gets pretty awful pretty quick.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-5268305391844188792?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/5268305391844188792/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=5268305391844188792' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5268305391844188792'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5268305391844188792'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/heathens.html' title='heathens'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2503999983096538149</id><published>2008-02-05T14:23:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-05T14:41:12.302-08:00</updated><title type='text'>ash</title><content type='html'>About Ash Wednesday...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wikipedia has:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Wednesday"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Wednesday&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Catholic Encyclopedia:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01775b.htm"&gt;http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01775b.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;About:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://catholicism.about.com/od/holydaysandholidays/f/2008_Ash_Wed.htm"&gt;http://catholicism.about.com/od/holydaysandholidays/f/2008_Ash_Wed.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A Gnostic Homily:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.gnosis.org/ecclesia/homily_AshWednesday.htm"&gt;http://www.gnosis.org/ecclesia/homily_AshWednesday.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Psalm 51:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalm_51"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalm_51&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Bible%2C_King_James%2C_Psalms#Psalm_51"&gt;http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Bible%2C_King_James%2C_Psalms#Psalm_51&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the &lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;ash&lt;/span&gt; is also Yggdrasil, the old Norse 'world tree'... and didn't Odin hang himself upside down there, and pierce his own side, until he brought &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos#Use_in_Christianity"&gt;the word&lt;/a&gt; of the Runes into being?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/a/ash--073-l.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/a/ash--073-l.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_and_resurrection_of_Jesus"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 261px; height: 327px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/Yggdrasil.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2503999983096538149?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2503999983096538149/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2503999983096538149' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2503999983096538149'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2503999983096538149'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/ash.html' title='ash'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-980392049424157357</id><published>2008-02-05T14:16:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-05T14:21:46.599-08:00</updated><title type='text'>the feast before the fast</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://altreligion.about.com/"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 142px; height: 187px;" src="http://z.about.com/d/altreligion/1/0/M/4/9/bloghallows.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just thinking about Lenten and Carnival.  Me?  Off coffee for 40 days.  But today it's gonna be 4 or 5 cups to glut, so I'm really &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;glad&lt;/span&gt; to say goodbye to it when the tinny shakes take hold and metal mouth sets in good.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway.  Happy &lt;a href="http://www.mardigras.com/"&gt;Mardi Gras&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_Mardi_Gras"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/MardiGrasFanGal04.jpg/250px-MardiGrasFanGal04.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-980392049424157357?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/980392049424157357/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=980392049424157357' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/980392049424157357'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/980392049424157357'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/feast-before-fast.html' title='the feast before the fast'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-1213401179844372318</id><published>2008-02-05T12:54:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-05T12:58:01.929-08:00</updated><title type='text'>revealing religious scholars for media</title><content type='html'>Interesting -- The &lt;a href="http://www.therevealer.org/"&gt;Revealer&lt;/a&gt;'s &lt;a href="http://www.therevealer.org/talkingheads.php"&gt;'talking heads' page [link]&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia,times; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Revealer&lt;/i&gt; was created first and foremost as a resource for journalists and media makers. To that end, we seek to bridge the divide between media makers and academe. Following is a guide to scholars from around the world who work with New York University's &lt;a href="http://www.nyu.edu/fas/center/religionandmedia/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Center for Religion and Media&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and would like to work with journalists and media makers. They're among the big thinkers in their respective fields, but they're not "authorities"; by their involvement with the Center for Religion and Media, they signal their commitment to the idea of media as an ongoing conversation, one in which the expertises of scholars, media makers, and ordinary people complement one another rather than competing for the last word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.therevealer.org/"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 124px; height: 89px;" src="http://www.therevealer.org/photography/archives/loc_8c03472u.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia,times; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia,times; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-1213401179844372318?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/1213401179844372318/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=1213401179844372318' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/1213401179844372318'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/1213401179844372318'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/revealing-religious-scholars-for-media.html' title='revealing religious scholars for media'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-5819596816639909617</id><published>2008-02-05T12:18:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-05T14:01:23.720-08:00</updated><title type='text'>force vs foreigner</title><content type='html'>I've got to come down on the side of Light Saber.  The Force beats solar-powered accidents of alien biology.Many other answers to the &lt;a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/02/a-question-for.html"&gt;question&lt;/a&gt; may be found &lt;a href="http://malaysia.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080131010337AAOiy32"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://malaysia.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080131010337AAOiy32"&gt; [link].&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="355" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/3GJOVPjhXMY&amp;amp;rel=1"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/3GJOVPjhXMY&amp;amp;rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="355" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-5819596816639909617?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/5819596816639909617/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=5819596816639909617' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5819596816639909617'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5819596816639909617'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/force-vs-foreigner.html' title='force vs foreigner'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-3963986745651984253</id><published>2008-02-04T23:14:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-05T12:11:47.772-08:00</updated><title type='text'>the failure of man</title><content type='html'>Over at Infosthetics, see &lt;a href="http://infosthetics.com/archives/2008/02/bible_information_diagrams.html"&gt;biblical infographic diagrams&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mostly sad attempts to make sense of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism"&gt;Larkin's world&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The plumbing diagrams of the Great Mystery, hawked carnival-style:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antichrist"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 373px; height: 565px;" src="http://infosthetics.com/archives/bible_infographics2.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-3963986745651984253?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/3963986745651984253/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=3963986745651984253' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3963986745651984253'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3963986745651984253'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/failure-of-man.html' title='the failure of man'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-5249412041315557669</id><published>2008-02-04T22:48:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-04T22:55:23.762-08:00</updated><title type='text'>be not a pharisee</title><content type='html'>Somebody said to me, &lt;a href="http://thespiritualsolution.com/"&gt;said: be not a Pharisee&lt;/a&gt;, meditating all alone, judging those bodies you don't take communion with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And that's a helluva thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seeking a cave with a candle and a parcel of ration bread, we don't witness, do we?  Got to get that candle out from under the bushel, be brave enough to learn from "mere" literalists, and brave enough to witness under threat of slander to the Kingdom here, the Kingdom now (may grace grant the ability and the right intention...).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Rembrandt_Harmensz._van_Rijn_038.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 422px; height: 360px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Rembrandt_Harmensz._van_Rijn_038.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-5249412041315557669?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/5249412041315557669/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=5249412041315557669' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5249412041315557669'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5249412041315557669'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/be-not-pharisee.html' title='be not a pharisee'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-7424999908094569980</id><published>2008-02-04T22:32:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-04T22:47:12.007-08:00</updated><title type='text'>witnessing and islam</title><content type='html'>1. Now I don't like no damn censorship -- read me not wrong -- but this here [&lt;a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ignZX5fP9K2a13AoxI8UpQRK_F5gD8UJHVH80"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;] speaks to the power of letting the purity of your mindful presence be the witness.  Evangelizing with your words and names and grammars?  Does not compare.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. &lt;a href="http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/02/government-seiz.html"&gt;Grow up, Malaysia.&lt;/a&gt;  Ideas swim.  Get it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. When are the Sufi-types going to gain popular cultural weight with Muslims again?  Huh?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4.  When are the Christians going to learn to see the planks in their eyes?  Huh?  (not one in one thousand, not two in ten thousand... will I be one of them?  will you?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufi"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 410px; height: 586px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Shams_ud-Din_Tabriz_1502-1504_BNF_Paris.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-7424999908094569980?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/7424999908094569980/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=7424999908094569980' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7424999908094569980'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7424999908094569980'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/witnessing-and-islam.html' title='witnessing and islam'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-5251543024295785518</id><published>2008-02-04T20:51:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-04T21:06:21.653-08:00</updated><title type='text'>dabbling vexes</title><content type='html'>Magick and your dabbling with Spirit does no good.  You, in the end, get dabbled &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;with&lt;/span&gt;. Remember &lt;a href="http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=5563"&gt;Victor&lt;/a&gt;?  You just can't encompass the doxa.  You get shoved left or right by the field, scrabbling around for dregs, for a few meaningful words, for a little starlight to steer by.  You get &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;dealt out&lt;/span&gt;.  There's no ontological bearing, and you're adrift in your own irrelevance, relatively genius.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do yourself a favor: Just &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centering_Prayer#Practice"&gt;sit&lt;/a&gt;.  You be the hungry toad in the muddy bank.  So &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=apophenia"&gt;go mad&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zazen#Methods"&gt;get real&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_magic"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 306px; height: 489px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Frankenstein.1831.inside-cover.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-5251543024295785518?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/5251543024295785518/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=5251543024295785518' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5251543024295785518'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/5251543024295785518'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/dabbling-vexes.html' title='dabbling vexes'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-6652316323254520176</id><published>2008-02-04T20:28:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-04T20:38:07.515-08:00</updated><title type='text'>thomas and elaine</title><content type='html'>Listening to Elaine Pagels on the &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Thomas-Perspectives-Jesus-Message/dp/1591794129/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1202185722&amp;amp;sr=8-4"&gt;Gospel of Thomas&lt;/a&gt;... a good presentation.  At several points she could have had a knee-jerk liberal response (overly apologetically ecumenical response), but she chooses to look the issue square-on and say that she doesn't know what it means but it troubles her too (I'm thinking about the saying of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/But_to_bring_a_sword"&gt;Jesus about bringing a sword&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyways, good on &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine_Pagels"&gt;Dr. Pagels&lt;/a&gt;.  Good on her for bringing forth what was within those jars at &lt;a href="http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html"&gt;Nag Hammadi&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We've all got to come to our own peace with what Jesus said, and that's not easy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_the_Apostle#Thomas_and_India"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 381px; height: 280px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/Caravaggio_-_The_Incredulity_of_Saint_Thomas.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-6652316323254520176?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/6652316323254520176/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=6652316323254520176' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6652316323254520176'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/6652316323254520176'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/listening-to-elaine-pagels-on-gospel-of.html' title='thomas and elaine'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-3038644052347766500</id><published>2008-02-04T17:58:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-04T18:21:02.617-08:00</updated><title type='text'>christians and buddhists</title><content type='html'>Here's a nice essay by John Shore [&lt;a href="http://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/johnshore/11566607/"&gt;link to Crosswalk.com&lt;/a&gt;] [&lt;a href="http://johnshore.wordpress.com/2008/02/01/me-my-wife-zen-and-the-evangelizing-christian-who-broke-the-great-commandment/"&gt;link to his blog&lt;/a&gt;].&lt;br /&gt;Excerpt:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;That our Christian friend in the orange cap meant well isn’t in question. Of course he only wanted what was best for Catherine and me. But he failed to interest us in Christianity because his evangelizing effort was grounded in what all such efforts are &lt;em&gt;necessarily&lt;/em&gt; grounded in: A lack of respect on the part of the evangelizer. He didn’t respect us, or our belief system.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;By disrespecting us, the evangelizer proved to my wife and me that he did not love us, because love without respect is no love at all. And by not loving us, that brother was breaking what Jesus himself called the greatest law of all: To love your neighbor as you love yourself.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I’m a Christian, and proud of it. But unless I’m missing something so huge it’d be like a car parked in my living room, that Christian was violating Christ’s most important and explict directive to all Christians. I’d like that &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; to be true, but I just can’t see how it isn’t.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Evangelicals are killing Christianity, y'all... at least it looks like they're trying their damndest to.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anybody ever heard of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Robert_Kennedy"&gt;Kennedy Roshi&lt;/a&gt;?  Or &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruben_Habito"&gt;Habito Roshi&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.mokushozen.ro/poze/deshimarubodhidharma.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 322px; height: 242px;" src="http://www.mokushozen.ro/poze/deshimarubodhidharma.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(And look at good old Deshimaru here, making fun of Bodhidharma... Can your Oklahoma City evangelical make fun of Moses or Paul?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-3038644052347766500?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/3038644052347766500/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=3038644052347766500' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3038644052347766500'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/3038644052347766500'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/christians-and-buddhists.html' title='christians and buddhists'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-760360684840965193</id><published>2008-02-04T14:33:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-04T14:52:20.624-08:00</updated><title type='text'>wiccans, aye up</title><content type='html'>Ecclesia Gnostica &lt;a href="http://egina2.blogspot.com/2008/02/dianne-sylvan-gets-it-right.html"&gt;links&lt;/a&gt; to a nice one &lt;a href="http://diannesylvan.typepad.com/dancing_down_the_moon/2008/01/witch-please.html"&gt;at Dianne Sylvan's&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aye, Christians need such a list...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;don't&lt;/span&gt; care what the name of your religion is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I care that your religion has made you a kinder, more compassionate person.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Pentacle_1.svg/70px-Pentacle_1.svg.png"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 70px; height: 70px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Pentacle_1.svg/70px-Pentacle_1.svg.png" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Ankh.svg/75px-Ankh.svg.png"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 75px; height: 137px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Ankh.svg/75px-Ankh.svg.png" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-760360684840965193?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/760360684840965193/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=760360684840965193' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/760360684840965193'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/760360684840965193'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/wiccans-aye-up.html' title='wiccans, aye up'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-8359219226109842684</id><published>2008-02-04T13:52:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-04T14:03:47.625-08:00</updated><title type='text'>prayer and poverty</title><content type='html'>A great talk by John Main on "The Grand Poverty of the Mantra" [&lt;a href="http://www.wccm.org/images/audio/Hunger/HDM04TheGrandPovertyoftheMantra.mp3"&gt;link to .mp3&lt;/a&gt;] over at the &lt;a href="http://www.wccm.org/item.asp?recordid=meditatioHDM04aud&amp;amp;pagestyle=default"&gt;World Community for Christian Meditation website&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.wccm.org"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 133px; height: 161px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Fra_Angelico_031.jpg/180px-Fra_Angelico_031.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The essential task for the Christian is to understand poverty as the condition of spiritual development, to see prayer as the deepening of our conversion -- of our turning from 'self' to God in faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;... the mantra is the sacrament of our poverty in prayer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-8359219226109842684?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/8359219226109842684/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=8359219226109842684' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8359219226109842684'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/8359219226109842684'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/prayer-and-poverty.html' title='prayer and poverty'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-287415898261133619</id><published>2008-02-04T12:23:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-04T12:29:30.850-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Hoeller in PARANOIA</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/hoeller.html"&gt;"The Suppressed Teachings of Gnosticism"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I mean, Dr. Hoeller's view isn't exactly noncontroversial... but I find myself partial to his take, rosy-goggled and benefit-of-the-doubt as it may at times seem to be.  (Note -- this is 5 years old now)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;How would you                      describe Gnosticism to someone who's never heard of it before?                      &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;                   &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;"&gt;I think we could                      describe it as a very early form of Christianity, very different                      in many respects from what Christianity became later on. It                      is much more individualistic. It is much more orientated toward                      the personal, spiritual advancement and transformation of                      the individual, regarding figures such as Jesus as being helpers                      rather than sacrificial saviors. It is a form of religion                      that has a much more ecumenical and universal scope in terms                      of its relationship to spiritual, religious traditions other                      than the Christian.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/index.html"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 251px; height: 299px;" src="http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/images/hoeller.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-287415898261133619?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/287415898261133619/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=287415898261133619' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/287415898261133619'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/287415898261133619'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/hoeller-in-paranoia.html' title='Hoeller in PARANOIA'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-2988109761946845780</id><published>2008-02-04T12:02:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-04T12:16:03.925-08:00</updated><title type='text'>post singularity tesseractian sects</title><content type='html'>or multidimensional post-evolutionary autopoietic quantum Christ-ing?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...or something like that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christian transhumans, or Transhuman Christians: they gots a technopoly on tha theologies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wikipedia has a splash [&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_basic_transhumanism_topics#Transhumanist_philosophies"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;], but you'll find more here [&lt;a href="http://www.hyper-evolution.com/"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;] and here [&lt;a href="http://www.technical-jesus.com/"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;].  Some in the archives at &lt;a href="http://jetpress.org/volume14/garner.html"&gt;JET, too&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most of this seems to be a heavy-handed approach to &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noosphere"&gt;Teilhard de Chardin&lt;/a&gt;... but I haven't yet read it deeply. Techno-noosphere?  WIRED did a story on that too, some years back (&lt;a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/3.06/teilhard.html"&gt;Wow -- 13 years ago now&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.gnosis.org/Matrix.ram"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 359px; height: 190px;" src="http://lifeboat.com/images/neo.matrix.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-2988109761946845780?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/2988109761946845780/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=2988109761946845780' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2988109761946845780'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/2988109761946845780'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/post-singularity-tesseractian-sects.html' title='post singularity tesseractian sects'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7866456212310932369.post-7002965242321676663</id><published>2008-02-04T06:59:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-04T08:09:08.944-08:00</updated><title type='text'>agnostic, gnostic, or non agnostic?</title><content type='html'>This blog logs happenings relevant to prayer, mysticism, "alternative Christianity", meditation, and related items.  Doesn't seem to be much out there in bloggish, newsy format on the web for the un-sanctimonious Western seeker.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hopefully this is a move in that direction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This ain't straight-edge, orthodox, or new-age.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Friends include &lt;a href="http://www.monks.org/thomasmerton.html"&gt;Merton&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.nozt.org/masters.shtml#anchor567596"&gt;Deshimaru&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.amma.org/"&gt;Amma&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.tutu.org/"&gt;Tutu&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://www.bishoppearson.com/"&gt;Pearson&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peace &amp;amp; Love...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7866456212310932369-7002965242321676663?l=nonagnostic.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/feeds/7002965242321676663/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7866456212310932369&amp;postID=7002965242321676663' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7002965242321676663'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7866456212310932369/posts/default/7002965242321676663'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://nonagnostic.blogspot.com/2008/02/agnostic-gnostic-or-non-agnostic.html' title='agnostic, gnostic, or non agnostic?'/><author><name>WE</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
